Re: Some standing here

From: Edward Hassertt (rbfm@usermail.com)
Date: Thu Jul 13 2000 - 15:50:10 EDT

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    I apologize, I forwarded this to the wrong Calvin college list, it was
    supposed to go to the SCUP list, please forgive.

    Rev. Edward J. Hassertt
    Reason By Faith Ministries
    Student: Florida Southern College
    Lakeland, Florida
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Edward Hassertt <rbfm@usermail.com>
    To: Mark Steele <steele@MDCSystems.com>
    Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
    Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 3:40 PM
    Subject: Re: Some standing here

    > He came into his glory at His resurrection and took the thrown of the
    > kingdom at His ascension and began to rule His kingdom from heaven:
    >
    > Matthew 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of
    heaven:
    > and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and
    > whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. (how can
    > Jesus give the keys of control to something that didn't exist yet?)
    >
    > Luke 11:20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the
    > kingdom of God is come upon you. (It was there at that time!)
    >
    > Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold,
    the
    > kingdom of God is within you. (WE have the best description of the Kingdom
    > here, its not a political rule for a thousand years, its an internal reign
    > of Christ in our lives)
    >
    > Luke 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it
    be
    > fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
    >
    >
    > The common misconception is to place this in our future, when Jesus said
    it
    > was in the immediate future. It depends on the presupposition you come to
    > the verse with...
    >
    > Since the Messiah is shown being born in Revelation 12:5 And she brought
    > forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her
    > child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. The Kingdom is clearly a
    > result of the Messiahs mission to earth, not some nebulous future
    prophetic
    > event.
    >
    > Satan is bound in Revelation 20: 2-3, this is easy to interpret since we
    > have Jesus own words of when this occurred in history: Matthew 12:29 Or
    > else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods,
    > except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
    > Jesus gives an accurate time reference that we can equate with John's
    > apocalyptic gospel in Revelation. Jesus says he bound Satan in Matthew
    12,
    > an event John records in Revelation 20.
    >
    > Revelation is an apocalyptic vision of the Olivet Discourse. This
    important
    > sermon is contained in all of the gospels, except John, because John gives
    > us the Olivet Discourse in the for of apocalypse!
    >
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Mark Steele <steele@MDCSystems.com>
    > To: 'scp@lists.calvin.edu' <scp@udomo3.calvin.edu>
    > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 2:55 PM
    > Subject: Some standing here
    >
    >
    > >
    > > Daniel,
    > >
    > > You wrote: >Matt 16:27-28
    > > > 28 Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not
    > > >taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."
    > > >NKJV
    > >
    > > So which of the apostles is still alive and walking around without
    > > having tasted death?
    > >
    > > Mark
    >
    > Ed Hassertt



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