Re: Building the bridge between science, theology

From: Stephen E. Jones (sejones@iinet.net.au)
Date: Sat May 27 2000 - 02:56:43 EDT

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    Reflectorites

    Here is an interesting op-ed piece by one Rory Leishman, bagging Dawkins
    and praising Bill Dembski!

    That Leishman does not get Dembski's name right, only adds to its
    genuineness as a non-partisan opinion (I had never heard of him
    before this).

    Darwinism has been protected by the media for decades. As it
    gradually wakes up to the idea that Darwinism is more a philosophy than a
    science, and that there might be a good story in it, Darwinism's glory days
    will be numbered!

    Steve

    PS: As to Darwinism being more a philosophy than a science, I can't resist
    this quote from one of The Third Culture web pages that Berthajane kindly
    posted:

    http://www.edge.org/documents/ThirdCulture/r-Ch.10.html "Richard
    Dawkins: I think of Dan Dennett as a great fountain of ideas, and he's like a
    fireworks display for me. On every page of his you read, you constantly put
    ticks in the margin. I'm never quite sure why he's classified as a philosopher
    rather than as a scientist; he seems to me to do the same kind of thing I
    do..." :-)

    Steve

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    http://www.canoe.ca/LondonOpinions/14n1.html

    The London Free Press

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    May 26, 2000
    Building the bridge between science, theology

    By Rory Leishman

    How can we know the difference between right and wrong? Don't ask a
    scientist for an authoritative answer.

    Writing in Free Inquiry, a publication of the Council for Secular
    Humanism, Richard Dawkins, the eminent Oxford biologist, states: "'What
    is right and what is wrong?' is a genuinely difficult question that science
    certainly cannot answer."

    In Dawkins's opinion, philosophy also offers no answer. "Given a moral
    premise or a priori moral belief," he says, "the important and rigorous
    discipline of secular moral philosophy can pursue scientific or logical
    modes of reasoning to point up hidden implications of such beliefs, and
    hidden inconsistencies between them. But the absolute moral premises
    themselves must come from elsewhere, presumably from unargued
    conviction."

    Unargued conviction? What about moral theology? For Dawkins, this
    option is out of the question. In his influential book, The Blind
    Watchmaker: Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe Without
    Design, he contends the existence of God is a scientifically unnecessary and
    absurd hypothesis.

    In brief, he argues that unlike a man-made watch, life is manifestly not a
    product of intelligent design. Instead, he maintains the Darwinian theory of
    evolution has conclusively established that all life on Earth, including
    human life, has spontaneously evolved over the past three billion years
    through a combination of chance and necessity.

    If that is so, how did the process get started? How did the laws of nature
    come into existence? As a biologist, Dawkins says he is not competent to
    answer such questions. Yet, he is confident that physicists like Stephen
    Hawking, his atheist colleague at Cambridge, will come up with plausible
    answers that also do away with the need for God.

    On all these points, the great majority of scientists and mathematicians
    agree. However, there are some notable exceptions. One of them is William
    Dembsky, a prominent intelligent design theorist who holds a PhD in
    mathematics from the University of Chicago and a PhD in philosophy from
    the University of Illinois.

    In his latest book, Intelligent Design: The Bridge Between Science &
    Theology, Dembsky argues the theory of evolution as propounded by
    dogmatists like Dawkins is implausible because nothing so complex as a
    single cell could conceivably have evolved over so short a period of
    geological time as a mere three billion years.

    Dembsky's work has been endorsed by Michael Behe of Lehigh University
    and Robert Kaita of Princeton University.

    There is no point, though, in drawing the publications of young scholars to
    the attention of most scientists and mathematicians over the age of 30. The
    dogmatic minds of these aging academics are closed to radically new ideas.

    In his scientific autobiography, Max Planck explained that, "A new
    scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making
    them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die. And a
    new generation grows up that is familiar with it."

    In this way, a young generation of Copernicans once displaced their
    Ptolemaic seniors. So today, Dembsky is confident that in his generation,
    intelligent design will prevail over dogmatic Darwinism.

    Meanwhile, consider the moral implications of this debate. As a "scientific
    rationalist," Dawkins asserts that "not all humans are equal."

    Humanness, he says, "is a complicated mixture of qualities that evolved
    gradually. Absolutist moral judgments founded on the 'rights' of all humans,
    as opposed to nonhumans, seem to me less justifiable than more pragmatic
    judgments based, for example, on quantitative assessment of the ability to
    suffer."

    Peter Singer, the humanist philosopher at Princeton University, agrees.

    On the basis of this premise, he comes to the horrific conclusion that the
    law should allow physicians to kill off a mentally handicapped, but
    otherwise healthy, infant at the request of the parents.

    In sum, Dawkins and Singer tell us there is no creator and that human
    beings, as such, have no inalienable rights.

    The intellectual leaders of a more enlightened generation proclaimed: "We
    hold these truths to be self evident: That all men are created equal; that
    they have been endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights;
    that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

    We, in our time, reject these timeless truths at our peril.

    Rory Leishman is a London freelance writer. His column appears Fridays.

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    "No one has yet witnessed, in the fossil record, in real life, or in computer
    life, the exact transitional moments when natural selection pumps its
    complexity up to the next level. There is a suspicious barrier in the vicinity
    of species that either holds back this critical change or removes it from our
    sight." (Kelly K., "Out of Control: The New Biology of Machines," [1994],
    Fourth Estate: London, 1995, reprint, p.475)
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