This was also discussed recently on the asa list. For further
insights into the situation see the following from the asa
archives:
http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/199908/0068.html
<<apologies to those on both lists>>
Brian Harper
Associate Professor
Applied Mechanics
The Ohio State University
Curly: "I can't hear a thing."
Mo: "Why not?"
Curly: "I'm not listening."