Tim. "Ted" is that other guy from Berkeley.
Hello again, Joseph.
> I read Behe's book and did not find IC-1 and IC-2.
One shouldn't expect to; those were Loren's designations.
> Behe made the point that a complex system must have all of
> its parts in order to function and he gave as just one of
> many examples the bacterial flagellum.
IC-1.
> Then he showed that the parts could not "evolve" because there
> would be no use for any of them until they all had appeared in
> the right order in the right place communicating, coordinating
> and connecting correctly according to the right blueprint.
Voila IC-2. Note that IC-2 is disputed, not IC-1.
Speaking of finding things in Behe's book, did anyone happen to
see mentioned how some of the flagellar components bear similarities
to some membrane pores and protein transport components? Did anyone
read how the blood clotting cascade is configured in anything but
mammals? Or what components of the human immune system is found in
reptiles, amphibians and sharks?
No? Hmmm...
> Anyone betting against Behe would lose his shirt more than a
> billion times.
"Billionsú" is Carl Sagan's line.
The track record is not promising. Not too long ago Mike and Phil J.
wondered where the fossil intermediate forms for the whales were
to be found. As it turned out, they had been buried but now some
have been unearthed. Haven't heard much about this from either of
them since then... Well, Michael at least seems to have finally
accepted the more rational position of common descent. It's still
progressive creationism but at least that's a step in the right
direction for establishing any sort of reasonable dialog on the
subject.
BTW - I like my T-shirts a little baggy -- XL is fine -- but I'm
real choosy about the design.
Regards,
Tim Ikeda (tikeda@sprintmail.hormel.com) despam address before use