> > CLiff: An evolutionist must ultimately believe in abiogenesis.
> You are making wide sweeping assertions here. You know that
> such assertions are often fallacious ?
Cliff: <<I wish I hadn't made that statement, which was irrelevant to my point, but while we're here, where do you draw the line? An evolutionist with any notion of an effective god is a creationist? And a creationist who recognizes any evolutionary change can call himself an evolutionist? >>
Why can one not be an evolutionist and believe in a God ?