Re: the atheist question

Ron Chitwood (chitw@flash.net)
Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:48:04 -0500

>>>First off, I haven't said that Christ wasn't resurrected. I am trying
to
point out that part of Christianity's credibility depends upon the
credibility of Christians themselves<<<

Do you believe that Abraham Lincoln lived? If so, why? If not, why?

Trust in the LORD with all your heart,
and do not rely on your own insight.. Pr. 3:5
Ron Chitwood
chitw@flash.net

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> From: Glenn Morton <grmorton@waymark.net>
> To: Dario Giraldo <giraldo@wln.com>
> Cc: J.D. Guzman <jguzman3@panam.edu>; evolution@calvin.edu
> Subject: Re: the atheist question
> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 8:26 PM
>
> At 06:27 PM 4/15/98, Dario Giraldo wrote:
>
> >Why don't you try asking the one who was resurrected? That is what we
are
> >required to do. We're to look at the author and finisher of our faith.
> >Science can't lead me to or away from God. It is His Holy Spirit and
this
> >by His will.
>
> First off, I haven't said that Christ wasn't resurrected. I am trying to

> point out that part of Christianity's credibility depends upon the
> credibility of Christians themselves. If they ignore scientific data, if

> they don't check the facts that they write in their books (like the
heaviest
> weight moved by modern technology etc.) why should someone believe them
when
> they say that Christ is resurrected? Maybe you will understand it in
these
> terms. Do you believe Clinton when he claims to not have had sex with
> Monica Lewinsky? Why not? Is it possibly because you don't believe he
has
> told the truth on other things? If this is the case, why should a
> non-christian beleive you if you are wrong on other things?
>
> >
> >If your assertions or any mans' lead me away from God (not saying that
> >they are, but this is merely a hypothetical statement), then my faith
> >wasn't built on The Rock. 'My message and my preaching were not with
wise
> >and persuasive words, but with a demostration of the Spirit's power, so
> >that your faith might not rest on men's wisdom, but on God's power.' I
> >Cor. 2:4-5. And the power of the message is the gospel.
> >
> >Lastly, The Bible isn't a scientific journal. So, why is it being
treated
> >as such? Is one day from man's prespective the same as one day from
> >God's perspective?
>
> Have you ever used a scientific argument to support the Bible? If so,
then
> you have treated it like it relates historical information.
>
>
> >
> >I perceive that you have good motives behing all the papers you have
> >written and appreciate very much to see someone working so hard trying
to
> >match data with Scripture. I think you should be commended for this
> >labor.
> >
> >But truly nobody know exactly. Not the Young, Old, Non Earth
Creationist
> >and even less the non-creationists. This are matters of mystery that
when
> >I get over the other side of heaven, if I remember, I'll ask the one who
> >created it all.
> >
>
> If no one knows exactly, then why doesn't this apply to the resurrection?
I
> mean if we can't even determine if God created the world, if we can't
> determine if there was a flood (global or otherwise), if we can't
determine
> the age of the earth or if there is or is not a geologic column, how can
we
> claim to "truly..know exacatly" that the resurrection occurred. What you

> miss is that your treatment of observational data and claim not to be
able
> to know anything, destroys your entire basis for beleiving the
resurrection.
>
> Getting our facts straight is an act of worship!
>
>
> glenn
>
> Adam, Apes, and Anthropology: Finding the Soul of Fossil Man
>
> and
>
> Foundation, Fall and Flood
> http://www.isource.net/~grmorton/dmd.htm
>