I guess the whole point of the " is to realize that those who cried from
the rooftops "separation of church and state" (i.e. ACLU, and many
humanists who brought lawsuits (stone v. gram)) when religious symbols or
references were present in the classroom have now in turn had their
religious humanism established and propogated. This is why the American
humaist association voted to repeal their 501c3 religious tax exempt
status. This is why Paul Kurtz wrote Eupraxophy. This is why the AHA is
put in a quandry. If american public schools by law are supposed to be
religion free, then why is the secular version of humanism so blatently
present? This whole issue of humanism being watered down in the schools is
utterly false as a matter of factual information. So then I ask the
question,"What can the theistic sunday schools do to compete with public
education?" I submitt to you ladies and gents, not a damn thing.
Good or Bad?--I don't know.
JONT
P.S.
(someone previously tried to tell me that the 501c3 is for not-for-profit
organizations. This is all well and good but the AHA considers themselves
to be a religious organization. )
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The woods are lovely, dark and deep. | Jonathan D. Thompson
But I have promises to keep, | jthomps1@d.umn.edu
And miles to go before I sleep, | http://www.d.umn.edu/~jthomps1
And miles to go before I sleep. |
Robert Frost |
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Education is the most powerful ally of Humanism, and every American public
school is a school of Humanism. What can the theistic Sunday Schools,
meeting for an hour once a week,and teaching only a fraction of the
children do to stem the tide of a five-day program of Humanistic teaching?
Charles Francis Potter
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On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Derek McLarnen wrote:
> jon thompson wrote:
>
> > JT> Some more thoughts on the issue.
> > > The issue is not whether Christian eduction has been tried and found
> >
> > > wanting,
> >
> > Sorry for the late reply - just back from holidays. Since Potter very
> > clearly implied that it would be a good thing if theistic Sunday
> > Schools
> > could stem the tide of humanistic teaching, then it is very much an
> > issue whether these theistic Sunday Schools, and Christian education
> > specifically, can demonstrate a superior capability over humanistic
> > teaching.
> >
> > DEREK,
> > Potter was a signatory of the first humanist manifesto. What made
> > you
> > make the opposite assumption? I am up to my eyeballs in metabolism now
> > so
> > I cant talk long.
>
> Oops! That's what comes of not checking the context and background of a
> quote, I guess! It simply appeared to me that Potter was bemoaning the
> "unfair" advantage he saw in a Humanism/Education alliance. Thanks for
> setting me straight.
>
> Should I therefore now understand Potter's quote as almost a claim of
> impending victory? If so, while I hope he is right, I fear he has
> reckoned without the substantial influence of those theistic parents who
> invite/pressure/force their children to share their religious beliefs.
>
> > __________________________________________________________
> > Education is the most powerful ally of Humanism, and every American
> > public
> > school is a school of Humanism. What can the theistic Sunday Schools,
> > meeting for an hour once a week,and teaching only a fraction of the
> > children do to stem the tide of a five-day program of Humanistic
> > teaching?
> > Charles Francis
> > Potter
> > ________________________________________________________
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> Derek
>
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