I first want to say that I just saw the tape where you question Wise,
Austin,Baumgardner et al at the 3rd ICC. Your question devastated their
model. Excellent point about their model needing continental breakup in the
Cambrian and there was no evidence of it. They really stumbled over that
question. Anyway now to your post.
At 12:07 PM 2/2/98 GMT, David J. Tyler wrote:
>David Tyler responding to Glenn Morton, including a short article on
>"reefs" in the geologic record.
>
>On 23 Jan 98 at 20:21, Glenn Morton wrote:
>> Considering that Dallas is built on chalk of the same age as the Dover
>> Chalk, I would be very interested in your explanation. ....
>> I would be interested in an outline of
>> your theory and how it applies to St. Bernard Ph. Louisiana.
>
>Glenn, although I have spent three days in Kansas looking at the Niobrara
>chalk, I did not see the overlying sediments. The model developed in the
>cited paper is that all these overlying sediments are also post-Flood.
OOOHHHH. That won't work at all, not at all. The Niobrara in Kansas is on
the surface, but as you go west, it gets buried, and buried deeply. Consult
Geologic Atlas of the Rocky Mountain Region pp 210-214. By the time you get
eastern Colorado the Niobrara is buried under 8000 feet of strata. It
underlies the Mesa Verde Formation which has lots and lots of coal. So I
presume that if the Niobrara is at the end of the flood, this coal was a
post flood phenomenon also.
But one can follow this "postflood" Niobrara north into Wyoming where it is
buried 4000-8000 feet BENEATH the Green River formation! So that makes the
Green River postflood also and thus the 6 million layers with the flattened
fish must now be post flood in this model. This is why I had to reject the
Global flood idea. Following a bed into the subsurface always created
problems like this.
Concerning your article, I can agree with much of it. There is a need for
clear use of the terms bioherm and reef. There are bioherms in which
frameworks are absent. But there are also reefs with frameworks present. I
don't think that one can dismiss frameworks in the fossil record as easily
as Austin tried to do.
I would send you to Carbonate Depositional Environments AAPG Memoir 33 for
pictures of framework reefs built in the fossil record.
On page 403 is a connected colonystromatoporoid which was encrusted in algae.
On page 402 a branching coral can be found and a Devonian bafflestone can
be seen.
On page 433 a colonial coral (Thecosmilia) from the Triassic can be seen.
Figure 160 on page 419 shows A naother coral reef from the Rhaetian near Austria
I simply do not know what the problem is when one can look at a rock and see
the connected structures as is shown in these photos.
glenn
Adam, Apes, and Anthropology: Finding the Soul of Fossil Man
and
Foundation, Fall and Flood
http://www.isource.net/~grmorton/dmd.htm