Re: Going back...

Gene Dunbar Godbold (gdg4n@avery.med.virginia.edu)
Tue, 1 Jul 1997 18:50:10 -0400 (EDT)

According to Pim van Meurs:

> Stan: 3. Your statement that you consider yourself to be a Christian
> is, in light of the above, puzzling to me. Just what IS a Christian to
> you?
>
> Pim: According to the "born again" doctrine, I am a christian (and
> saved as well) by accepting JC as my savior and inviting him into my life.
> Different christian religions themselves appear to disagree on what it
> takes to become a member of their 'religion' from catholic to born again
> and everything in between. What makes me a Christian ? My personal
> faith.
>
> Keithp: Savior? Saved? From what?

Pim:
> >From myself ?
>
> Stan: Here I insist on the objective meaning of words. The word
> Christian, first applied to the believers and followers of Jesus in the
> first century, can be defined fairly carefully.
>
> Pim: Can it ? What is the definition ?
>
> Keithp: I was still anxious to hear yours. After all, you WERE asked
> first.

Pim:
> I did not claim that there is an objective definition of the word
> christian.

> If I consider myself a christian, is that not enough ? What else is needed
> ? The blood-oath ? A notary certified statement ? A baptism certificate ?
> A statement from my minister ?

Actually guys, Pim's right in a way. The only guy who needs to vouch
for him is Jesus at the end. If He'll take him, I think we'd probably be
better off just accepting that. :-)

Peace,
Gene

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