Re: So-called pro-lifers

john queen (john.queen.ii@mail.utexas.edu)
Tue, 01 Jul 1997 10:08:22 -0500


--I think you are really asking " can there be an objective code which has
any standards?"
I river without set limits is a mess.
john w queen ii

>At 10:03 PM 6/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
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>>The argument however is, how are the commandments to be interpreted ? Some
>>consider killing an evil abortionist doctor not murder. So is there an
>>eternal, universal and objective moral code if so many can disagree about
>>this moral code ?
>>Can there ever be an objective code which has these standards ?
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>>Pim
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>>JQ: --Man's disobedience towards the commandments of God does not negate
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>>existence of the commandments.
>> Likewise, lieing on IRS tax forms does not eliminate the fact that
>>there is a definite tax Code that has been established as law. A murderes
>>actions does not eliminate the fact that there are laws or codes against
>>murdering.
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>> john queen
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>>At 8:03 AM 6/30/97, Russell Stewart wrote:
>>>At 02:40 PM 6/26/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>Russell,
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>>>>Just a private opinion of mine:
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>>>>> Therefore making this "universal, eternal" moral code rather easy to
>>>>> manipulate. After all, one can simply define "murder" however one
>>>>> wishes. The Crusaders certainly didn't believe that they were commiting
>>>>> murder. Nor did the Inquisitors, the witch-burners, or modern-day
>>>>> "Pro-Lifers" who murder abortion doctors.
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>>>>While I am aware that a few so-called "Pro-Lifers" have murdered
>>>>abortion doctors, please don't refer to them as pro-lifers. That
>>>>is an insult to those of us who are abhored by those actions. It
>>>>wasn't the "pro-life" aspect of these people that led them to the
>>>>murders, but rather that they are not-all-there mentally.
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>>>>The vast, vast majority of us true pro-lifers would never be able
>>>>to commit such an act.
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>>>I know that, but this schism just goes to emphasize once again the non-
>>>existence of a true universal, eternal moral code.
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3 + 3 = 6 (for all values of 3)
3 + 3 = 7 (never, similar to the chances of evolution)