Jim: Please give me one of the historical examples you are thinking of.
Pim: The denial of the holocaust for instance?
Jim: Is this a reference to Nuremberg? Because if it is, it only proves my
point. The denial by Nazi leaders was offered up in their DEFENSE, to SAVE
their
lives! Further, they were persisting in a lie about what ACTUALLY
happened,
not in a lie about what they KNEW did NOT happen.
And why are you assuming that the disciples did not lie to save their
lives ? But I was not talking merely about Nuremberg but also about the
general tendency after the war of germans to deny what had happened in
order to promote the continuance of fascist ideas.
Jim: As you can see, this is the exact opposite of the apostles' case, and
thus my contention is confirmed.
Are you suggesting that the apostles were not afraid to be lynched if they
had revealed that jesus had not risen from the dead ? Or that they were
not afraid that such an admission would have lead to loss of face or worse
loss of faith of many of the followers ?
Pim