> I expect that Glenn will take his
>objections directly to Steve, just as I've told Glenn when,
>after reading his book, I disagreed with his interpretation of
>the relevance of ribozyme engineering, the Kollar and Fisher "hen's
>teeth" experiment, developmental mutants, and so on.
>
Taking things to Steve is quite fruitless. On April 15, 1996 I wrote a
letter to Steve after he bought, and read my book. He had written me and
wanted me to discuss the salt problem. Since ICR had bought the book on
March 1 and still not paid for it by April 15th I told Steve that I would
discuss it when they paid their bill. I decided to talk to Steve about
another issue until they paid up. I was refered to this :
"A lake
in Switzerland, which was thought to accumulate one lamina pair
each year, was shown to accumulate up to five laminae pairs per
year, by a rapid, turbid-water, underflow process. One layer
withing the Swiss lake dates from the year 1811, but was observed
in 1971 to be buried beneath 300 to 360 varvelike silt
laminae."~Steven A. Austin, "Interpreting Strata of Grand Canyon,"
in Steven A. Austin, editor, Grand Canyon: A Monument to
Catastrophe, (Santee: Inst. for Creation Research, 1994), p. 38.
So in my reply to his letter I wrote:
"In the mean time would you care to discuss your use of the Walensee lake
cited by Lambert and Hsu? (see page 28-29 of my book). It seems wrong for
you to use that the way you do with uninformed laymen when the picture
Lambert and Hsu have clearly shows qualitative differences between varves
and storm layers and clearly state that what they see in Walensee is NOT
yearly varves. (see your book, Grand CAnyon: A Monument to Catastrophe, p.
38.
Lambert and Hsu write:"We do not intend to make an unwarranted
generalization that no varves are depostis of annual cycles. Figure 4
shows varves from the mesotrphic Lake Zurich were the light laminae
represent chemical sedimentation prevailing during summers and the darker
laminae detrital sedimentation during winters. A comparison of those
varves with the non-annual varves of the oligotrphic Walensee shows that
the annual rhythms of Lake Zurich varves are more regular." Sedimentology,
1979, p. 460
You didn't study that article very well. You just grabbed the parts that
supported your position and ignored the rest."
end quote****
Steve never referred to this again in any of his subsequent letters to me.
This implies that Steve really doesn't care to correct himself! So when
you tell me to go directly to him, what is the point?
Paul, you have my book. Look up my drawing of the Wallensee varves and
storm sediments taken from Hsu and Lambert. Even a biologist can tell
that there is a major difference between yearly deposits and those storm
deposits. If you don't believe my drawing, go get the article and look at
the picture. For those who have neither I will reproduce them here.
Storm deposited varves:
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| |
| -------|
| ------- |
|----- |
|---- |
| ----------- |
| -----|
|--------- |
| -----------|
|--------------------|
Yearly deposited varves
|--------------------|
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|--------------------|
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|--------------------|
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|--------------------|
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|--------------------|
The yearly varves are evenly bedded while the storm deposits (5 times per
year) are chaoticly bedded.
Steve knows this and ignores this.
glenn
Foundation,Fall and Flood
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