Actually, I'm a little uncomfortable with the "barely within bounds"
part. I should have mentioned this previously, but didn't want to
get too outrageous ;-).
Is it possible that we see these two views (i.e. what Loren referred to as
TE and DE) as being fundamentally different primarily because we are
trapped in a one-dimensional time frame? In other words, is there really
a difference between "interfering" in the present and "interfering" in
the beginning from a point of view that transcends time?
>Are these two semi-equivalent models that "explain" the same data, with
>different theological interpretations? It seems so.
>
>In this regard, Brian adds to his commentary the remark:
>"From a theological point of view, the main point for me is 'mindful
>intention' (as Howard would probably put it)."
>
><iii> I wonder whether something similar is going on in the debate
>between the TE and PC positions:
>We in the reflector tend to think in terms of one acceptable description
>of reality - and view ideas that sound different as fundamentally
>different. Is this really the case? For instance, when Glenn is insisting
>on a TE model and Stephen a PC model for describing and interpreting a
>piece of data, is it possible that both are correct - in that no amount of
>effort is going to demonstrate that one view is correct and the other is
>wrong? Sounds weird, doesn't it? But how weird is this?
I do often get confused about how to distinguish TE and PC ;-). In fact,
things get even more confusing if we adopt the terminology EC (Evolutionary
Creation) that some people like, i.e. evolutionary and progressive are
almost synonymous [except, of course, that progressive has a little
more teleological flavor to it].
Anyway, I guess I do tend to agree with this. In fact, it seems to me
that TE and PC are more closely related than TE and DE, i.e. the difference
between TE and PC seems to be a disagreement over the interference mechanism :).
Now, Stephen will likely say that people who thought they were TE's are
really PC's. In fact, the opposite is true, Stephen is really a TE and
doesn't yet realize it ;-).
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