SJ
>Well, this only serves to confirm my point IMHO: "Scientists who are
>wedded to a materialist >world-view will probably never listen to
>creationist-alternatives."
Of course they won't. Would you expect them to take Communion too?
Besides, if the majority of scientists know or care very little about the
origins debate, why would they ever want to hear the other side of an issue
that is already removed from them. This points to disinterest and not to
conspiracy. I remain puzzled why this is so surprising to Christians.
I have been lectured by Christians about genetics, how glaciers never
existed, how the Grand Canyon was formed in 2 weeks, etc. (even on areas of
my expertise). Unfortunately, vested disinterest in truth works in many
directions.
SJ
>>The other point that we often forget in our discussions of evidence
>>for or against creation is the influence of sin and Satan.
SC
>>Could this influence also affect the attitude of believers?
SJ
>Of course it applies to "believers"!
>I think we are debating at cross-purposes. I do not live in the USA
>and we do not have a strong Christian "orthodoxy" here. I am not a
>fundamentalist. I am committed to truth, but if I had to chose
>(because of human finiteness) I would rather be wrong in my science
>than in my salvation.
I don't think we are at cross purposes. I understand from your previous
posts that you don't consider yourself a fundamentalist, or a YEC, but you
seem to promote your own brand of dogmatism that seems to me to serve to
wall believers off from the natural world populated by scientists.
SC
>>An insistence by some that
>>Christians must adhere to certain views of science supposedly compatible
with faith, elevates this whole
>>debate to a pedestal on which it should not stand. This is as bad (perhaps
>>worse) as evolutionists claiming they have proven that God does not exist.
>
>You are fighting a different battle here, Steve. I am not a YEC.
Ok, so I changed the wording to make my statement more inclusive.
Shalom
Steve
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