Re: Re: [asa] health care

 on >>>> an operating table getting his skull sawn open. I think I would. >>>> >>>> I am not a fan of letting the gov't make these decisions either but at least in this particular case I don't think the doctors did any better job. This really is a thorny ethical dilemma and one the church should have dialogue on. I think the best solution would be some type of free market solution where each family gets some level of health care credits for their seniors like a health savings account and they can choose whether to have the surgeries or not based on all these factors. I particularly like Dick's observation of denying health insurance to attorneys. That certainly shows the wisdom of the free market in my opinion. :) >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>>   >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>> From: Jack <drsyme@verizon.net> >>>> To: Terry M. Gray <grayt@lamar.colostate.edu>; AmericanScientificAffiliation <asa@calvin.edu> >>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:39:44 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [asa] health care >>>> >>>> If you want to have a discussion on this topic that is relevant to our purpose here why dont we discuss the issue of what amount of health care is everyone entiltled too? >>>> >>>> Discussions on how health care is delievered is interesting, but more political than moral or scientific.  But there is no question that resources used in providing health care are limited.  I would like to see a discussion on who deserves to get what and at what time, and who decides this? >>>> >>>> To give a more specific example, we spend an inordinate amount of money in the last month of a persons life.  Is this the best way, most efficient way, the fairest way to distribute health care? >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry M. Gray" <grayt@lamar.colostate.edu> >>>> To: "AmericanScientificAffiliation" <asa@calvin.edu> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:35 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [asa] health care >>>> >>>> >>>>> Not even close..... >>>>> >>>>> But we're a patient lot here. Most of the responses heretofore are  proof that it's "off topic". But if we can control ourselves and  connect it with faith/science matters (and we're not talking faith OR  science here) then we can keep talking. >>>>> >>>>> TG >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Jack wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This thread is not even close to being on topic is it? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sep 24, 2009 05:39:07 PM, michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk wrote: >>>>>> Thank goodness we have the National Health Service for all its faults. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "John Burgeson (ASA member)" <hossradbourne@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: "asa" <asa@calvin.edu> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:50 PM >>>>>> Subject: [asa] health care >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> In eight US states and Washington, D.C., insurance companies are >>>>>>> legally allowed to deny health insurance coverage to victims of >>>>>>> domestic abuse, treating it essentially, if not literally, as a >>>>>>> pre-existing condition. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Which is one practice of the insurance companies I hope will be >>>>>> stopped >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Great short clip about Health Care Reform! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwRAIdVdVS4&feature=related >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Burgy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.burgy.50megs.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with >>>>>>> "unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with >>>>>> "unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message. >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with  "unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message. >>>>> >>>>> ________________ >>>>> Terry M. Gray, Ph.D. >>>>> Computer Support Scientist >>>>> Chemistry Department >>>>> Colorado State University >>>>> Fort Collins, CO 80523 >>>>> (o) 970-491-7003  (f) 970-491-1801 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with >>>>> "unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with >>>> "unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with >>>> "unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message. >>>>To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with "unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message. >> ________________________________ >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2393 - Release Date: 09/24/09 18:00:00 >

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