RE: [asa] Re: good atheists?

The golden rule "do unto others as you want them do to you" sounds the exact same as an atheist rule. It is common sense. And it didn't originate with Jesus. It doesn't come from God but simple logic.

Loving your enemies is trickier. Are Christians supposed to that? Love Osama Bin Laden (the biggest enemy to the USA)? How many Christians on this list love Osama Bin Laden? Let's see a show of hands... I didn't think so... I didn't see any hands ;-)

Love your enemies... Why is it that the most fundamentalist Christians might hold this as an ideal, yet they hate even the President of their own nation (because he looks gay-friendly and abortion-friendly, as if those are the only two issues that matter)? The President is not even an enemy. (Strike that- I forgot- Glen Beck lays out the case that Obama is a racist anti-American.) ;-)

...Bernie

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From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Alexanian, Moorad
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:19 PM
To: Cogan, Susan L.; ASA LIST
Subject: RE: [asa] Re: good atheists?

Can you deduce or derive the golden rule from atheism? However, Christ did teach us to love one another as He loved us. That is why we love even our enemies. One cannot deduce love from denying God. After all, there may be some innate features in humans, say obeying the golden rule, that are there and an atheist who loves does not prove that he/she is basing his/her love on atheism.
Moorad
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From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Cogan, Susan L. [susan-brassfield@ou.edu]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:02 PM
To: ASA LIST
Subject: Re: [asa] Re: good atheists?

The golden rule seems to be reinvented every generation. It appears to be thousands of years old and is found in every culture and every religious document. "Do no harm" gets you 99% down the road, morally speaking, and seems to be an ordinary part of being human.

On 9/4/09 2:07 PM, "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu<UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote:

Then, do we invent new ones or do we choose from the existing ones? How do we play the game?

Moorad

From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu<UrlBlockedError.aspx> [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Cogan, Susan L.
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [asa] Re: good atheists?

That is correct. All morality is man-made. Who else? We are the ones who benefit from it.

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