Re: [asa] Videos

I think you can find the Louie Giglio video(s) online. I remember
watching him talk about laminin. Check YouTube or Google Video.

TC

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On Jan 19, 2009, at 7:55 AM, "Dick Fischer" <dickfischer@verizon.net>
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> Gordon Glover’s Beyond the Firmament has some good science videos on
> line that perhaps your church could use.
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> http://www.blog.beyondthefirmament.com/video-presentations/science-and-christian-education/science-and-christian-education-page-1/
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> Dick Fischer, GPA president
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> Genesis Proclaimed Association
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> "Finding Harmony in Bible, Science and History"
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]
> On Behalf Of Jon Tandy
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:26 AM
> To: asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: [asa] Videos
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> Well, it's happened. Several people at church have talked about
> showing a video on science sometime, so I asked to take a look at it
> first. Turns out there are two videos by Louie Giglio; one on the
> cosmos, and the other going from space down into the cell, showing
> the grandeur of God (I presume it will talk about Laminin). Haven't
> watched them yet, but I'll let you know.
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> In the meantime, last December I finally forced myself to watch
> (online on Netflix), Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed.
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> Having read plenty about it beforehand, watching Expelled confirmed
> my suspicion: the subtitle is an appropriate Freudian slip. "No
> intelligence allowed" is a pretty good description of the movie, not
> the scientific community that it pretends to expose. My second
> thought was, if this is the best that the Intelligent Design
> community can come up with, they'd better just pack it up and go
> home. Its substantial collection of logical fallacies and anti-
> scientific rhetoric is an insult to the intelligence of its
> audience, not to mention mocking and accusing scientists and the
> scientific community.
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> I've already talked to a friend who thought it was the greatest, and
> mentioned the movie's false accusation against scientists by its
> reference to Hitler, concentration camps, and other threatening and
> murderous images. This constant ad hominem argument is not only
> wearisome, it is slanderous. I also mentioned that though Hitler
> used Darwinian ideas in his writings to justify killing the Jews, he
> also used Christianity in the same way. Does Hitler's use of
> Christianity prove that Christianity is dangerous and destructive?
> Or does it prove that Hitler was a madman who could use any
> rhetorical argument to his advantage, no matter how illogical?
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> It mocks the scientists by taking their arguments out of context and
> presenting them in a manner calculated to make them look stupid. One
> of the best illustrations of this is the comment (I think from
> Daniel Dennett) that life might have begun "on the backs of
> crystals", then the movie switches to a fortune teller with a
> crystal ball. If someone doesn't know the difference between a
> crystal structure and a crystal ball, he should not pretend he's
> doing any favors to science or the truth. This doesn't mean that
> life did begin spontaneously on crystals or anywhere else; it does
> mean that Stein has used such goofy, anti-scientific rhetoric, that
> it defies belief.
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> On the other hand, though there are many practicing scientists who
> also believe in God, I'm sure that there is a fair amount of bias in
> the scientific community against "Intelligent Design" and religion
> in general. I don't want to put the blame for this solely on
> Christians, but with this kind of unintelligent tripe going around,
> it's sometimes seems difficult to blame the scientific community for
> wanting to exclude anything that looks like "religion".
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> Jon Tandy
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Received on Mon Jan 19 12:24:18 2009