Re: [asa] http://www.conservapedia.com/Evolution

Those are but two of the silly things in Conservapedia.

I have registered there and am enpowered (at least for now) to make
changes. I shall tread gently! <G>

As for "Physicists have generally rejected Darwinian evolution because
it is at odds with their second law of thermodynamics, and no adequate
mechanism for life's overcoming that law has been forthcoming," it can
also be phrased as

"Physicists have generally rejected human birth development because it
is at odds with their second law of thermodynamics, and no adequate
mechanism for life's overcoming that law has been forthcoming."

I know of no physicist, alive or deceased, who would make such an assertion.

As for "Moreover, a basic assumption of Darwin's–that the universe
itself is eternal and thus that evolution had an infinite amount of
time with which to work–has been disproved, and cosmologists now tell
us that the universe is only about 13.7 billion years old," this too
is a falsity. Whatever "Darwinism" is, and I don't want to get into
definitions, an eternal universe has never (to my knowledge) been
argued as a foundation for it.

One may find all sorts of interesting "facts" on Conservapedia. It
really is an embarassment to those who like to claim the label
"conservative" (most people in Texas). Obviously, there are many such
who would regard Conservapedia, as I do, with a combination of disdain
and horror.

On 1/15/09, David Opderbeck <dopderbeck@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't understand these statements in that article:
>
> *"Physicists have generally rejected Darwinian evolution because it is at
> odds with their second law of thermodynamics, and no adequate mechanism for
> life's overcoming that law has been forthcoming."*
>
> Is there any basis at all for this generalization about physicists?
>
> And this:
>
> *Moreover, a basic assumption of Darwin's–that the universe itself is
> eternal and thus that evolution had an infinite amount of time with which to
> work–has been disproved, and cosmologists now tell us that the universe is
> only about 13.7 billion years old.*
>
> Was a belief that the universe is "eternal" central to Darwin, or just that
> life on earth is really old?
>
> David W. Opderbeck
> Associate Professor of Law
> Seton Hall University Law School
> Gibbons Institute of Law, Science & Technology
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:41 PM, John Walley <john_walley@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately it is not only the YECs that have deceived themselves and
> are deceiving others with their evolution bashing.
>>
>> This guy at the link below is the latest biologist to throw his hat in the
> ring with Fuz to make a fool of himself and bring the intellectual integrity
> of RTB down to the level of that of AiG.
>>
>> In spite of continued, repeated, patient and clear instruction on the
> details of psi GULO and its implications on evolution, they insist on
> sticking their head in the sand and parroting the RTB party line back about
> function which simply just shows that they are incapable of understanding
> the logic of the argument. They are in denial and think their responses are
> enlightened and smart. It is reinforced by the personality cult of RTB
> volunteer apologists acting as an amen corner for them. It is tragically
> embarassing and the reason I decided to no longer be a part of them.
>>
>> John
>>
>> http://www.reasons.org/chapters/seattle/newsletters/200709/200709.pdf
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 1/14/09, gmurphy10@neo.rr.com <gmurphy10@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From: gmurphy10@neo.rr.com <gmurphy10@neo.rr.com>
>> > Subject: RE: [asa] http://www.conservapedia.com/Evolution
>> > To: "asa@calvin.edu" <asa@calvin.edu>, "Dehler, Bernie" <
> bernie.dehler@intel.com>
>> > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 4:35 PM
>> > Evidence for evolution has been posted all over the place
>> > for years. The only reason not to call YECs liars is that
>> > before trying to deceive others they have first deceived
>> > themselves. (With apologies to Peter Medawar.)
>> >
>> > Shalom,
>> > George
>> >
>> > ---- "Dehler wrote:
>> > > Your link has this excerpt (emphasis mine):
>> > > ""Defenders of Darwin's theory of
>> > evolution typically proclaim that evidence for their theory
>> > is simply overwhelming. If they really believe that, you
>> > would think they would jump at a chance to publicly explain
>> > some of that overwhelming evidence to the public. Apparently
>> > not.[211]"
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I've seen the opposite. I accept evolution, am a
>> > Christian, and can't find any local YEC's that want
>> > to debate or present something for discussion, in the
>> > Portland Oregon area. If you know of any, let me know. My
>> > meetings are here:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.meetup.com/sciligion/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Here I am "jumping" as suggested...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ...Bernie
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu
>> > [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of John
>> > Burgeson (ASA member)
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:26 AM
>> > > To: asa@calvin.edu
>> > > Subject: [asa] http://www.conservapedia.com/Evolution
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > The subject line,
>> > http://www.conservapedia.com/Evolution, is a web
>> > >
>> > > site that shows almost 500,000 accesses. It is most
>> > interesting. Not
>> > >
>> > > too factual, of course, but interesting in seeing what
>> > drives our
>> > >
>> > > Christian brothers and sisters who are of the YEC
>> > persuasion.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > One thing that apparantly drives them is their
>> > negative judgement of
>> > >
>> > > those of us who see evolution and Christianity as
>> > being compatible.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > Burgy
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > www.burgy.50megs.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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