Re: [asa] Darwin only biological evolution? (can anything exist without evolution?)

I don't want to speak for Bernie or to criticize personally, but here is my
take, from experience: it's very possible to lose any functioning filters
and foundations when first dealing with all this stuff. I personally wish
organizations like the ASA were better at helping people rebuild their
filters and foundations after the traumatic experience of realizing that an
apologetic built around criticizing biological evolution is inadequate. I'm
afraid we're very good at tearing down weak foundations built on YECism or
strong OEC concordism, but we're not very good, IMHO, at coming alongside
people to rebuild an orthodox Christian faith on firmer ground. Yes, some
folks like George M. and others work at this, but it seems to me that this
should be just about priority one for the ASA's public outreach -- including
on the web and email lists -- and I don't think it is.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michael Roberts <
michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

> A quick response Iain.
>
> Bernie's arguments may well help emotionally rather than intellectually .
> They illustrate the chasm we need to bridge.
>
> Michael
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Strachan" <igd.strachan@gmail.com
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> To: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
> Cc: "David Opderbeck" <dopderbeck@gmail.com>; "Dehler, Bernie" <
> bernie.dehler@intel.com>; <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [asa] Darwin only biological evolution? (can anything exist
> without evolution?)
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> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Michael Roberts
>> <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> In fairness to Bernie, he is trying to present an alternative to YEC
>>> which
>>> he escaped from. He is seeking to put this over to his fellow Christians
>>> who
>>> are/were caught up with YEC and in terms they can understand. In that I
>>> totally support him.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, but is it really going to persuade YECs to suggest that there is
>> an evolutionary explanation to EVERYTHING?
>>
>> Patently Beethoven's Ninth Symphony did NOT evolve. Some of the ideas
>> were derived from the Choral Fantasy, but the notion that the one
>> evolved out of the other is ridiculous. It was put together by a
>> creative genius, and some of the ideas in it were regarded as totally
>> revolutionary. (The "r" makes a difference).
>>
>> There is just no way you can liken it to evolution. YECs object to
>> "evolution-ism", and suggesting that everything evolved like that is
>> precisely what they object to.
>>
>> Iain
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