Re: [asa] A theology question (imminent return of Christ)

From: Jack Syme <drsyme@verizon.net>
Date: Sat Oct 18 2008 - 20:46:52 EDT

Ok Ill bite, I want some details George.

Matthew 16:24-28
Then Jesus said to his disciples, "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will find it. What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done. I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."

Luke 9:23-27
Then he said to them all: "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life me will save it. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit his very self? If anyone is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father of the holy angels. I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God."

NIV

Obviously, two different accounts of the same event. Yes they differ. But do they differ in any significant way that would make the clear time statement at the end anything other than what it means?

Just saying something is "sloppy" is not an argument worthy of you.

Jack Syme

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: George Murphy
  To: asa@calvin.edu
  Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 5:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [asa] A theology question (imminent return of Christ)

  This is terribly sloppy. The texts from Matthew and Luke are not the same - they differ in significant ways. & both differ from Mark, again in a significant way. Details upon request.

  Shalom
  George
  http://home.neo.rr.com/scitheologyglm
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Jack Syme
    To: Schwarzwald ; asa@calvin.edu
    Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 7:55 AM
    Subject: Re: [asa] A theology question (imminent return of Christ)
    .....................

    "For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father
    with His angels, and then he will reward each according
    to his works. Assuredly, I say to you, there are some
    standing here, who shall not taste death till they see
    the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." (Matthew 16:27-28,
    Luke. 9:26-27).
    ..........................

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