Re: [asa] Re: ID without specifying the intelligence?

From: David Clounch <david.clounch@gmail.com>
Date: Sun Sep 16 2007 - 12:39:02 EDT

Iain said:
>I also do find that many YEC's I've tried to reason with aren't really
willing to engage in reasoning about facts and evidence presented to them.

This has often been my experience as well.

But, on the other hand, I've seen the very same attitude displayed by
anti-creationists.

What really wounded me was when _some_ YEC friends have switched from
talking about science to asking about my beliefs about God. This has
happened more than once. What they were getting to is whether I am saved.
You see, they believe that if I disagree with them on the age of the earth,
or biology, that I cannot be saved. To me this is problematical. I don't
know where the teaching comes from, but it seems to be going around in
certain lay circles. To teach that Christian doctrine says salvation is
based on something other than Christ's propiatiation for our sins, on
something other than His incarnation, death, and resurrection, upon
something other than His work on the cross and and an individual's faith in
it, that salvation is instead is based upon a doctrine about origins, is to
me a heresy against Christianity itself. Isn't this the sort of thing
the Nicean creed addressed?
And here the problem is again in modern form.

We have to be careful to not confuse YEC-ism in general with the beliefs of
those few misguided lay people who have added such a doctrine to basic
YEC-ism. And keep in mind they do have a civil right to not have government
impose any other views on them.

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