Re: [asa] Re: ID without specifying the intelligence?

I argue that ID is vacuous. Whether or not the content of these
articles are vacuous is irrelevant.

So let's focus on the issue at hand, which is not about methodological
naturalism, or scientism but about the scientific vacuity of ID.

Why does it seem to be so hard to point to scientific contributions of ID?

On 9/14/07, David Clounch <david.clounch@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Why is ID not science ? SImple, it is based on an eliminative
> > argument, and conflates common terminology to lead its followers to
> > conclusions that do not follow from the premise. The abuse of
> > terminology like information, complexity has done a lot of disservice
> > to science and religious faith.
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> > So to ask you a question: What has ID done with regard to DNA and
> > biological structures? Anything worth reporting on from a scientific
> > perspective? I'd say, nothing, nothing at all.
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> This has been addressed in various places in PSCF. For example, professor
> of biology Pattle Pun wrote an article dealing with this in Volume 59, No.
> 2, June 2007.
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> I've been wondering why there isn't more discussion of the content of the
> PSCF articles on this ASA list.
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> Another article in that same issue touches scientism. Its by Ian
> Hutchinson, head of the department of Nuclear Science and engineering at
> MIT.
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> And then there is a fascinating piece in the Sept 2007 PSCF by Harry Lee
> Poe and Chelsea Mytyk (biologist and a med student at UofMo) on inventor of
> the term Methodological Naturalism, Paul deVries.
> The term first appeared in print in "Naturalism in the Natural Sciences" in
> Christian Scholars Review in 1986. It seems to have been invented to solve
> a theological problem with the interface between Christianity and science.
> It seems to be a Christian concept which has been distorted into
> metaphysical naturalism by both Christians and non-Christians alike.
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> If someone wanted to seriously argue that the content of these articles is
> "vacuous" then the thing to do is submit a rebutting article (or at least a
> rebutting letter) to the journal.
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> Thank you,
> David Clounch (ASA member)
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Received on Fri Sep 14 11:05:08 2007