Re: [asa] Martian ice caps

At 10:38 AM 9/11/2007, John Burgeson wrote:

>My geologist-clergy friend dismissed human influence on global
>warming to us yesterday as problematic and probably not factual on
>the argument that as earth's ice caps melt so are those of Mars --
>fluctuations in the sun's output probably responsible. Is there a
>rebuttal to this? ~ Burgy

@ Such "rebuttals" aren't free.

If you are as smart as Enron was - you'll see that Jim Hansen gets
the "funding" for that project, and poof! --- that little
"rebuttal" you're looking for will materialize like
magic: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1811662/posts?page=40#40

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What this analysis basically shows is that when Hansen found missing
temperature data, he made up new data which in turn forced older
temperature data to look cooler. But this helped to show a warming
effect going forward and hence his claim that the recent warming is
unprecedented.
I suspect this is only the tip of the iceberg and Steve Mc Intyre and
the team on his Weblog will show huge errors by
Hansen. <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1894499/posts?page=4#4>4

The net effect is to artificially increase the upward slope in the
overall temperature trend for most of the stations we have studied.
As noted earlier, this process can bias records in the other
direction, but stations with the requisite conditions have been hard
to come by - Gassim being one of the few.

So, the overall bias in the trend is "up" - as he wants - with only a
few getting a lowered trend. But the ENTIRE AGW moment is still based
on a total change of less than .6 degree over 35 years.

And the last 9 years (1998-2007, or 25% of the ENTIRE Global Warming
trend!) have had "zero", "none", or even a "declining" global temperatures!

And for this 1/2 of 1 degree change the
EU/Russia/socialists/democrats require us to destroy the American
economy. <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1894499/posts?page=6#6>6

The Bias Method's Perfect Siberian Storm 9/10/07
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1894499/posts

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QUOTE: "The climate modelers have been cheating for so long it's
almost become respectable" (Richard Kerr, discussing adjustments in
climate models, Science 1997)

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"The evolution of the scientific debate about
anthropogenic [man-caused] climate change illustrates both the
value of skepticism and the pitfalls of partisanship." " Scientists
are most effective when they provide sound, impartial advice, but
their reputation for impartiality is severely compromised by the
shocking lack of political diversity among American academics, who
suffer from the kind of group-think that develops in cloistered cultures.

Until this profound and well documented intellectual homogeneity
changes, scientists will be suspected of constituting a leftist think
tank." "On the left, an argument emerged urging fellow scientists to
deliberately exaggerate their findings so as to galvanize an
apathetic public..."

"Conservatives have usually been strong supporters of nuclear power.
.. Had it not been for green opposition, the United States today
might derive most of its electricity from nuclear power, as does
France; thus the environmentalists must accept a large measure of
responsibility for today's most critical environmental
problem." ~ K*rry Emmanuel -
MIT http://bostonreview.net/BR32.1/emanuel.html

"Recently many people have said that the earth is facing a crisis
requiring urgent action. This statement has nothing to do with
science. Frankly, the very idea of consensus in such an immature and
multi- faceted subject as climate change should be suspicious ab
initio. Consensus is largely a propaganda claim designed to relieve
ordinary people of the need to understand the issue. This is neither
good for science nor for public policy. . " ~ Richard S.
Lindzed the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at
MIT. Global Warming: The Origin and Nature of the Alleged Scientific
Consensus
http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv15n2/reg15n2g.html Vol.15,
No. 2, Spring 1992

~ Janice

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Received on Tue Sep 11 11:03:23 2007