RE: [asa] What Does ID Add?

The philosophical/theological claims made by those who believe in Darwinism, which clearly goes beyond unadulterated science, must be fought in that arena and ID proponents have fought a very valid fight.

 
Moorad

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From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu on behalf of John Walley
Sent: Sun 9/9/2007 8:58 AM
To: 'Iain Strachan'; 'Peter Loose'
Cc: 'David Opderbeck'; 'AmericanScientificAffiliation'
Subject: RE: [asa] What Does ID Add?

Agreed. It is not about ID vs. Darwinism. It should be about the truth.

I am sympathetic to ID in that they have raised several valid objections to Darwinism but the conclusion is not as simple as "Poof! God did it" like they would have you believe. There is religion and dogma on both sides of the argument and the truth lies somewhere in the middle in my opinion.

So committing to a philosophy first and subsequently fitting the evidence around it is counterproductive to a search for truth. I think this applies equally to both sides.

John

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From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Iain Strachan
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 6:13 AM
To: Peter Loose
Cc: David Opderbeck; AmericanScientificAffiliation
Subject: Re: [asa] What Does ID Add?

Peter wrote:

        "Why is it seemingly important for many Christians to identify strongly with Darwinism?"

It's not important to identify strongly with Darwinism per se. But what IS important to me is to attempt to be perfectly honest in pursuit of the truth. For a while I was myself tempted down the YEC route. But in the end I found that the science ( sorry I should say pseudo-science) promoted by organisations such as AiG was completely insupportable, and that I could no longer hold those views and maintain my personal integrity. See my other posting about AiG's commitment to Russ Humphreys's cosmology, despite it being rigorously disproven by another YEC who at least is honest enough to admit it's not a solved problem. I'm not aligning myself with an organisation that refuses to look honestly at all the evidence.

What we have to do is to go with what the best evidence we have shows, if we are to be honest in our science. If evidence turns up that strongly counts against Darwinism in favour of something else, then, and only then, does Darwinism go out of the window.

Iain

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