Re: [asa] Science Genesis ideas

From: George Cooper <georgecooper@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat Jul 28 2007 - 17:17:44 EDT

Yes. Ps: 104 espeically is rich in allegory. Vs. 3 states, "He lays the beams of His upper chambers in the waters, Who makes the clouds His chariot."
   
  Vs. 5 is allegory too but it seems to me to have yet a little more touchy-feeliness to it. It seems to answer just how big and strong are those foundations. [Why did Johnny Carson pop into my head? :) ]. That question can only be answered in a relative sense, either from God's reference frame or man's. The latter is certainly more likely. From mankind's point of view, even today, one can not got out there and move the Earth in any way that could be measurable. Indeed, the Earth is immovable in this context. Of course, the intent is clear to give glory to God for His creation of such a massive Earth.
  
The idea that the reference frame is that of the author is key to understanding the possible literal view of G1 that I posit. Consider the difference sensed between seeing the six days as simply six separate days our author was given to witness the events stated from his reference frame, vs. a more dictation account given the author from the Creator's reference frame. Moses, our likely author, -- ever wonder what Moses did while 40 days on top the mountain? -- may have simply wrote what he saw on those days, like John in Rev. Further, perhaps his viewing took him away from the evening until morning of each day.
   
  Helio
   
   
  
gordon brown <gbrown@Colorado.EDU> wrote:
  On Fri, 27 Jul 2007, George Cooper wrote:

> Science has peeled away layers of myth and misinterpretation. The Geocentric view of the Earth was a helpful foundational view for believers, too. It took over 100 years to show that the better Copernican model was correct. Galileo was forcing the Church to do something it did not wish to do....reinterpret scripture.

The original readers of the Bible undoubtedly believed in geocentrism.
I think that many Christian defenders of geocentrism appealed to such
verses as Psalm 104:5, Psalm 93:1, and Psalm 96:10. However it appears to
me that these verses do not refer to planetary motions but claim that the
earth cannot be shaken off its foundations. Thus it is really the ancient
view of foundations that is relevant here. Since we have a different
understanding as to what is underneath us, this raises the question of how
we can read these verses to get the same sense of wonder about God's
creation as the ancients would have had.

Gordon Brown (ASA member)

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