Re: [asa] the Way Science Works/

I can't agree with the either/or. Evolution is the scientific approach,
but does not establish the philosophical and theological foundation. No
one can tell scientifically whether all the developing order was built
into the Big Bang or was nudged along the way. But orthodox theism holds
that God is ultimately involved in everything that happens, including
cooperating with our use of secondary causation.
Dave (ASA)

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:23:24 -0500 "WENDEE HOLTCAMP"
<wholtcamp@comcast.net> writes:
Not to me, creation as a process indicates evolution to me, not design.
How can we surmise or guess what God did before he began creation? That
just seems presumptuous. Science indicates evolution not design. So
that’s what I’ll stick to until the weight of evidence changes.
 
I think the masses of people should not be concerned about this issue of
ID. Why do Christians care? I don’t get it. Either they want to defeat
evolution, which is an agenda, or they think it’s actually correct but
really don’t we Christians have more important duties such as taking care
of the poor, spreading the good news, and many other things Jesus called
us to?
 
W.
 
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From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of Randy Isaac
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:18 PM
To: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: [asa] the Way Science Works/
 
Wendee,
    Isn't there a sense in which Gen. 1:24 and 25 strongly suggests a
design component? The verbs used do not imply ex nihilo creation but a
process. I believe the Hebrew terms for "bring forth" and "made"
indicate processes which typically have a design connotation. I wonder if
the phrase "God designed the animals" might not be closer to the actual
BIblical text than "God created the animals" though I would think both
are correct when understood in the context. The two are not exclusive. It
all depends on one's connotation of the words.
 
    Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: WENDEE HOLTCAMP
To: asa@calvin.edu
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 3:58 PM
Subject: [asa] the Way Science Works/
 
 A 2nd grade Abeka science book begins with the text, "God designed the
animals." Design is not even the Biblical word which was "God *created*
the animals." This means that Christian educators have not only bypassed
the scientific system, but also undermined the integrity of the actual
Biblical text
 
 

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