Re: [asa] Theological Naturalism - 'The Nature of God' = Naturalism

Gregory -

I sometimes find your posts a bit puzzling & as you know don't always agree with those I do understand but this one is, in Pauli's words, "Not even wrong." One doesn't have to be a sociologist to recognize distortions ignorance.

& BTW - it's amusing that in your earlier post you spoke of the contributions that IDM had made to "the dialogue between science and religion" when leading lights of the ID movement lconsistently dodge any discuss of theological issues & even try to pretend that it's all about science & philosophy & has nothing to do with theology!

Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Gregory Arago
  To: George Murphy ; David Campbell ; asa@calvin.edu
  Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 9:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [asa] Theological Naturalism - 'The Nature of God' = Naturalism

  No, this is unfair. 'Toxic' - not just a Brittany Spears song - is not an appropriate word for the IDM. Perhaps you need to be a sociologist, i.e. a non-natural scientist to really understand this. Don't confuse ID with 'creationism,' especially since you're embroiled in an ideological viewpoint - TE, even TN - yourself!!

  It is obvious that I am not a fan of D. O`Leary, but her post-Darwinian approach (if it can be dignified as something concrete) actually is more cutting edge than you have yet expressed (even if she herself doesn't understand it). I bother because it is the social reality of what's happening in our world today. It is not the absence of reality that it appears most TE's function in, living in contradiction, pretending they have found a 'balance' amidst the muck.

  En garde George.

  G. Arago

  George Murphy <gmurphy@raex.com> wrote:
    What IDM has brought is not just not "healthy," it is toxic. Its one contribution has been to give people who don't want to accept evolution some supposed reasons for not taking it seriously. ICR & AiG also have resources to hand out, videos under their belt, &c. The tactics of Dembski & his Minister of Disinformation O'Leary put Karl Rove to shame. Sure, maybe you can find a couple of rose petals floating in the muck, but why bother?

    Shalom
    George
    http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/

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Received on Mon Jul 23 22:21:43 2007