Re: [asa] Science's Blind Spot: The Unseen Religion of Scientific Naturalism

Sigh! 1st, you give no idea of what the supposed unexplainable phenomena are. 2d, The notion that scientists refuse to examine such phenomena is, by & large, fantasy. & 3d, saying that we can't "guarantee" that God will act in a lawlike manner is not at all the same as giving reasons to think he won't.

3 strikes & you're out.

& of course you fail to address my main point in the post you cite, that science based on MN works. Deal with it.

Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Vernon Jenkins
  To: George Murphy ; David Opderbeck ; Ted Davis
  Cc: PvM ; Gregory Arago ; asa@calvin.edu ; (Matthew) Yew Hock Tan
  Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [asa] Science's Blind Spot: The Unseen Religion of Scientific Naturalism

  George,

  You really are most provocative! A few days ago you wrote, in part,

  "All the history, philosophy & theology involved in this discussion is interesting, but we shouldn't lose track of one crude empirical fact: Science operating within the constraints of MN works - it has been working for ~400 years & continues to work very well in explaining known phenomena & predicting new ones. Of course that doesn't mean that what it's able to study exhausts all reality, or that we may encounter observable phenomena that such science can't finally explain. But - bracketting off for a moment claims for unique historical events like the resurrection - we don't have any reason to believe that there are any such phenomena."

  You will observe that I have highlighted the words I find particularly interesting.

  Of course, if one refuses to examine claims for the existence of 'such phenomena' - seemingly preferring to remain ignorant of facts that MN can't explain - and, manifestly, never will be able to explain - then these words, clearly, are the words of one who, apparently _at any cost_, is intent on defending a lost cause.

  George, you should know that we can never guarantee that our Creator is going to act through things in the natural world in a _lawlike manner_. That is why MN must fail to satisfy the Christian in science.

  Shalom,

  Vernon

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Received on Fri Jul 20 12:26:01 2007