Re: [asa] What causes students to move from faith?

I gave up a long time ago. It is time Moorad took a little time to learn
about and understand historical science.

Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Murphy" <gmurphy@raex.com>
To: "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu>; <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: [asa] What causes students to move from faith?

>I give up. Clearly you're deeply committed to the belief that there is a
>basic distinction between "historical sciences" and sciences such as
>physics )in spite of the fact that one of the branches of physics is an
>historical science.)
>
> Shalom
> George
> http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu>
> To: "George Murphy" <gmurphy@raex.com>; <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [asa] What causes students to move from faith?
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>
> George,
>
>
>
> I already indicated in a previous post that if we observe suns at
> different stages of their lifetime, then we could surmise the historical
> development of a particular sun. Of course, that did not stop us from
> developing nuclear/hydrodynamic models of suns, which was strongly linked
> to the development of nuclear weapons.
>
>
>
> I suppose the same could be said of the history of life on earth if one
> could make observations of such developments in other planets. Of course,
> this will not stop scientists from attempting to "create" life in the
> laboratory, which would be the best guess of how life arises in general.
>
>
>
> Parev (Armenian for peace)
>
>
> Moorad
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: George Murphy [mailto:gmurphy@raex.com]
> Sent: Sat 9/9/2006 7:38 PM
> To: Alexanian, Moorad; asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: Re: [asa] What causes students to move from faith?
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>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu>
> To: "George Murphy" <gmurphy@raex.com>; <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 5:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [asa] What causes students to move from faith?
>
>
> It may be best to characterize paleontology & astrophysics as
> observational
> sciences that use the results of experimental sciences to make sense of
> their observations. Certainly, astronomy is the best example of an
> observational science.
>
> Why might this be best? I thought we had agreed that paleontology &
> astrophysics could be considered experimental sciences because "Nature"
> has
> provided them with a great number of relevant entities (fossils, stars &c)
> under different conditions & thus in a sense "done the experiments" for
> them. If this is not the case, can you explain why? If it is the case,
> can
> you explain why your restatement above is preferable.
>
> Shalom
> George
> http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
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