Re: Question for Clergy / resurrection/ escatology

Thank you for resisting, and I don't blame you.

There is plenty of evidence that Christ and the author's of the new
testament expected that the Last Days, were going to occur in the first
century. So even though there is insufficient evidence of what was going on
in 70AD, there is a lot of biblical evidence that what preterism claims,
was expected during the apostolic period. It is not pure fantasy. You may
not believe it, and that is fine, but it is not unbiblical, it is not mere
whimsy.

But, as I said before, I am not sure this debate is relevant here. I am
more interested in thoughts regarding the nature of the resurrection of
Christ, and of believers, as I mentioned, the timing of Judgment and the
Resurrection is a secondary issue.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Murphy" <gmurphy@raex.com>
To: "jack syme" <drsyme@cablespeed.com>; "Don Nield"
<d.nield@auckland.ac.nz>
Cc: <mrb22667@kansas.net>; <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: Question for Clergy / resurrection/ escatology

>I have been resisting the temptation to say this but must now yield: All
>this stuff about resurrection in A.D. 70 is pure fantasy. That is made
>quite explicit by the fact that everything depends on the the phrase "I
>imagine." That's all it is. & "We are not given this information." No
>kidding!
>
> Shalom
> George
> http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jack syme" <drsyme@cablespeed.com>
> To: "Don Nield" <d.nield@auckland.ac.nz>
> Cc: <mrb22667@kansas.net>; <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Question for Clergy / resurrection/ escatology
>
>
>> At some point during Christ's Parousia, his second coming, which was
>> during the war between Rome and Israel, the Old Covenant age came to an
>> end, the Law was destroyed, and the New Covenant was fully implemented.
>> It was at this point that the change in personal eschatology was made.
>>
>> I dont know exactly when this change ocurred, but know only that it was
>> related to the destruction of the temple. We dont have enough details
>> about the history of that time. I imagine that at that moment things
>> ocurred that were similar to the moment of Christ's death on Golgotha, an
>> earthquake perhaps? A rift in the Temple? A sudden appearance of all of
>> the dead? I cant be precise. We are not given this information.
>>
>> Of course this view of personal eschatology, that is, that there is no
>> continuity between the physical body that dies, and the spiritual body
>> that is raised, does not require a preterist viewpoint. It could be the
>> case that after death believers become disembodied souls until Judgment
>> day, and that this Judgement is yet future. I am not sure that a debate
>> about whether or not preterism is true, is appropriate to this group, so
>> I was just trying to explain the position more than prove it.
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Received on Thu Apr 20 23:06:51 2006