Re: Eschatology and The Beginning

It is fine Janice that you are a partial preterist.

Since David also thinks I am a partial preterist, which I
am not, I want to make a couple of clarifications.

First of all to call preterism (and by this I mean "full"
preterism) a Hymenaenism heresy is incorrect. We belive
that the Hymenaenian's were wrong. The great resurrection
had not happened at that time, it was not to ocurr until
70AD. Take this example, If I say to you that "the Royals
won the 2006 World Series last month", that would clearly
be incorrect, ( you might also think I was insane if I
thought the Royals could possibly win the World Series.)
 But if in fact the Royals do win the World Series, and in
November I say that "the Royals won the 2006 World Series
last month", that would not be incorrect. So to label
preterists hymenaeians is a logical fallicy.

Second what do preterists believe about the resurrection?
Janice is incorrect to say that we do not believe in a
bodily resurrection, we do. But is that body physical or
just spiritual, this is debated among preterists. First
we would argue that the resurrection of Christ is not
exactly how believers are resurrected. The main
difference being that Christ's body did not see decay,
because it was sinless. Clearly our bodies decay in the
grave. Preterism believes in the physical bodily
resurrection of Christ, and in the resurrection of
believers bodies, but not the self same body. Whether or
not this body is physical plus something else, or not
physical at all but only spiritual is debated. The
clearest scripture for this is Paul's analogy of a seed.
 The seed is planted (the body) it dies, and something new
is raised up.

But it is this incorruptible spiritual body that inherits
the afterlife. We think that those bodies of believers
that died prior to 70 AD have been resurrected, are are
now residing with Christ. Since 70 AD all believers that
die go immediately into their spiritual body to be with
Christ, there is no more Hades (Death). We are not
expecting a "second" second coming (a third coming?)

> @ "Full" Preterism (sometimes called "consistent"
>Preterism) is considered to be heresy (known as
>"Hymenaeanism") mainly because it denies the bodily
>resurrection.
> http://www.tektonics.org/esch/hythere.html
>
> I am a partial Preterist.
>http://www.tektonics.org/esch/pretsum.html
>
> ~ Janice
Received on Wed Apr 19 13:16:50 2006