RE: Glenn's dilemma

I wonder if Glenn considers the following verse "some grounding in
fact". "And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because
flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in
heaven." Matt. 16:17.

Moorad

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From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of Don Winterstein
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:14 AM
To: asa@lists.calvin.edu; Glenn Morton
Subject: Re: Glenn's dilemma

Glenn wrote:

"...A religion to have some validity must
have some grounding in actual fact."

Recorded history--not the presumed inerrancy of a book--provides
Christianity's grounding in actual fact. At all times in that history
the people of God have had very fuzzy portraits of him, but God has
nevertheless succeeded in interacting with them. The sum of people's
responses to those interactions constitutes the actual fact of
Christianity. Some of the most important of those responses are
recorded in the book.

Yes, there are misguided responses, flaky responses, and all kinds of
activities that are really not responses at all. That's why it's
necessary to apply a high-cut filter to see God behind it all.
Scientists want the high frequencies to resolve fine details; but for
spiritual phenomena the low frequency range gives a clearer image.

Don

        ----- Original Message -----

        From: Glenn Morton <mailto:glennmorton@entouch.net>

        To: Either Carol or John Burgeson <mailto:burgytwo@juno.com> ;
asa@lists.calvin.edu

        Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:09 PM

        Subject: RE: Glenn's dilemma

        
        
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu
[mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On
>Behalf Of Either Carol or John Burgeson
>Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 6:05 PM
        
>
>But "objective evidence" is NOT all I have to go on. We have
been over
>this before, of course.
        
        What I object to is a religion having any value if it claims
that anything
        goes, which is what I see happening. If all we have is our
man-made portrait
        of god, how can we tell that we actually have anything
substantive?
        Subjective evidence can often fool one into believing
falsehoods. You are
        right, we have been over this before. A religion to have some
validity must
        have some grounding in actual fact.
Received on Thu Oct 21 09:21:11 2004