Re: Racism and YEC (WAS:Four items of possible controversy)

Rich wrote:

"we are talking about whether there are real racial differences that would enable one group to dominate another and there are. We are being progressively dominated by a people who practice an ancient religion that destroys other religions. The secret of their success is eugenics."

People have hated Jews for as long as there have been Jews. Europeans have made an industry out of this hatred for centuries, and it appears to be thriving still. I suspect a lot of the hatred stems from the outsized impact that Jews have had on every civilization and culture they've been immersed in. Jews have often overcome the obstacles that others have deliberately put in their way and made their influence felt in extraordinary ways. I admire and respect them for that.

However, if they're having any success in destroying our religion, then it must be due to our own failures. After all, Christianity itself is trying to destroy all other religions in that its expressed intent is to convert everyone in the world to its way of thinking. Islam likewise. If external appearances count for anything, both Christianity and Islam are more forceful in their efforts to convert people than is Judaism; so it seems the Jews should be more fearful of us than we of them.

Assuming the Jews are actually having any success in "dominating" us, I'd venture the success stems more from their culture than their high IQ's; more from their adherence to their traditions and their resultant sense of group identity than from eugenics. It's widely accepted that someone with a moderate IQ who applies himself will outperform someone with a high IQ who doesn't. Jews seem more successful than many other groups in motivating their children to perform, to make an impact on the world. I attribute this far more to their values than to their physical attributes.

And I for one do not feel the least bit threatened by Jewish successes. I don't perceive Jews as constituting a monolithic entity that's out to get me and my religion. Rather, more often than not they are an oppressed and hated minority doing their best to do their best, all the while working hard (in many instances) to preserve their identity as a distinct people.

Don

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: RFaussette@aol.com
  To: jan@dekoning.ca ; asa@calvin.edu
  Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:27 AM
  Subject: Re: Racism and YEC (WAS:Four items of possible controversy)

  In a message dated 11/19/03 2:51:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, jan@dekoning.ca writes:
    So, if in our outlook on life we look down on
    different-coloured" people, than in our science we take that outlook
    along. If then we have never given these people a chance to go to school,
    than it is easy to say that they have less intelligence. We forget easily
    that science, knowing etc. have nothing in common with intelligence.
    The same things happen today as well, but we do not see it because we have
    taken the belief of our upbringing with us. I hear it regularly: "It is
    their own fault that they are poor, or are homeless. We made it, and we
    are immigrants. So they are just lazy." Apart from the fact that in that
    way we can escape our responsibility, I know people who honestly believe
    it, and would be willing to write it down as well.
  We are not talking about "looking down on coloured people." That's a personal position of arrogance. we are talking about whether there are real racial differences that would enable one group to dominate another and there are. We are being progressively dominated by a people who practice an ancient religion that destroys other religions. The secret of their success is eugenics.

    “The land which you are entering and will possess is a polluted land, polluted by the foreign population with their abominable practices, which have made it unclean from end to end. Therefore do not give your daughters in marriage to their sons, and do not marry your sons to their daughters, and never seek their welfare or prosperity. Thus you will be strong and enjoy the good things of the land, and pass it on to your children as an everlasting possession.”

  That is racism. The basic requirement for eugenics to operate is isolated breeding. There it is and it's espoused throughout the OT.

  If you deny racial differences and there really are racial differences you've relegated one race to rule and the rest to be subjugated including yours and affirmed the Old Covenant as opposed to the New.

  rich faussette
Received on Wed Nov 26 05:19:29 2003