Re: Declining water and oil

From: Don Winterstein (dfwinterstein@msn.com)
Date: Fri Nov 14 2003 - 03:47:44 EST

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    But this can't tell the whole story. How about the net population declines in western Europe and Japan--the US also, I think, if we were to stop immigration? China also has forcibly slowed if not stopped its growth. Rampant growth seems confined to poor nations without constraints. Prime example: India. But even there concepts of birth control are taking root.

    The fact that population can stop growing and even decline gives me hope.

    Don

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: John W Burgeson
      To: glennmorton@entouch.net
      Cc: asa@calvin.edu
      Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:03 AM
      Subject: Re: Declining water and oil

      Glenn wrote, in part: "The big problem is the population. The world
      simply can't continue to support more and more of us, but I doubt that
      sex and babies are going to go out of style anytime soon."

      Glen also cited the reindeer example, which is a good one.

      On my website I have a spreadsheet which illustrates mathematically the
      problem. The math is described on page 35 of REASON AND REALITY by John
      Polkinghorne (1991) and describes how species population sizes vary in
      successive years. Next year's population (X[n+1]} depends on:

      (1) how many of the species there are to breed this year (X[n])

      (2) on the attenuating effect of limited resources this year (1-X[n]).

      You can see this at the page www.burgy.50megs.com/chaos.htm

      JB

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