From: Jim Armstrong (jarmstro@qwest.net)
Date: Sat Nov 01 2003 - 14:02:22 EST
But you gotta admit at least that there is some benevolent flexibility
in choosing what particular words are going to be associated, evaluated
and compared. In one case in your example, there is a phrase; in the
other a sentence. What about "body of Jesus" vs "whom they pierced"? No
match. Wouldn't that be more "perfect" yet. For my part I view these
observations as intriguing, but it's hard for me to see a real
God-purpose for such properties. It seems somehow related to the early
efforts to understand the workings of the universe in terms of the
platonic solids and musical intervals. I respect that you do see purpose
in your observations. However, it strikes me that this would be pretty
meaningless - even verging on occult to a non-Christian. To a Christian,
most would not need or particularly benefit from these observations.
But it's just my opinion. You clearly find great satisfaction and
importance in them. I would not take that away from you. You have
clearly invested a great deal of time and effort in a study with a
righteous intent.
Regards - JimA
richard@biblewheel.com wrote:
>The study of the the numerical structure of Scripture is rejected by some
>because it appears to be based on a random association between numbers and
>words. The problem is that any arbitrary assignation of numbers to letters
>will always divide the vocabulary into numerical classes which can be
>scanned for "interesting" hits. The critic notes immediately that in the
>process of finding ten interesting coincidences, ten thousand were passed
>over. How could order or meaning be found in something as arbitrary as this?
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>There are many satisfying answers to this question that involve a fair
>amount of discussion. But there can be no discussion if the topic is
>rejected out of hand. Therefore, people need a reason to consider the
>possibility that such a study could be fruitful. That is the purpse of this
>post.
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>In John 19, we read:
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>And again another scripture saith, THEY SHALL LOOK ON HIM WHOM THEY PIERCED.
>And after this Joseph of Arimathaea, being a disciple of Jesus, but secretly
>for fear of the Jews, besought Pilate that he might take away the body of
>Jesus: and Pilate gave him leave. He came therefore, and took THE BODY OF
>JESUS.
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>The numerical value of the exact words written are:
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>The Body of Jesus (TO SOMA TOU IHSOU) = 2869
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>This coincides exactly with the value of the Hebrew prophecy (Zech. 12.10b)
>cited IN CONTEXT of its fulfillment:
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>and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for
>him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him,
>as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
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>The sum of these words in Hebrew is exactly 2869 = THE BODY OF JESUS.
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>This is discussed in my article:
>http://www.BibleWheel.com/InnerWheels/John/John19.asp
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>Let me reiterate, the sum of the Greek letters that spell THE BODY OF JESUS
>coincides *exactly* with the sum of the Hebrew words of the prophecy that
>says "THEY SHALL LOOK ON ME WHOM THEY PIERCED ..." Perhaps it will help to
>state it as an equation mediated by the common value:
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>THE BODY OF JESUS = 2869 = THEY SHALL LOOK UPON ME WHOM THEY PIERCED ....
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>We have here a translingual (Hebrew to Greek), alphanumerically-coded
>reiteration of a prophecy cited in context of its fulfullment!
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>Note the magnitude of the mediating number. It contains four digits. What
>are the chances of this?
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>Is it appropriate to dismiss this as yet another "mere coincidence"?
>
>Richard
>Discover the sevenfold symmetric perfection of the Holy Bible at
>http://www.BibleWheel.com
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