RE: RFEP & ID

From: james.behnke@asbury.edu
Date: Fri Sep 26 2003 - 11:21:48 EDT

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    Generally, when we describe someone as a "Darwinian," we are saying that
    they believe that gradualism and selection are the important features in an
    evolutionary process. It seems that ecologists tend to be hard-core
    Darwinian.

    Non-Darwinian biologists view drift, founder effects, macromutations (those
    with multiple effects) and similar processes as the important mechanisms in
    an evolutionary pathway. S.J. Gould popularized this in the punctuated
    equilibrium model.

    Jim Behnke james.behnke@asbury.edu
    Asbury College
    Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 x 2232

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Steve Petermann [mailto:steve@spetermann.org]
    Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:36 AM
    To: Robert Schneider
    Cc: ASA
    Subject: Re: RFEP & ID

    > Who are "the Darwinians"? This is an ID designation, so what do
    > they/you mean by "the Darwinians"? Is this intended to include all
    > evolutionary biologists? Does it mean only "the extreme gradualists"
    Howard
    > understands the term to mean in ID-speak? Who are you talking about?

    Ok. Non-telic evolutionists.

    Steve Petermann

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Robert Schneider" <rjschn39@bellsouth.net>
    To: "Steve Petermann" <steve@spetermann.org>
    Cc: "ASA" <asa@lists.calvin.edu>
    Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 9:23 AM
    Subject: Re: RFEP & ID

    > Steve wrote:
    >
    > > Don wrote:
    > > >>>>>>>>>>
    > > I have gained the impression that if anyone can develop an ID
    scientific
    > > research program then Mike will be the one to do it. However, he is
    > > obviously
    > > not a typical ID proponent of the Johnson-Behe-Dembski variety.
    > > <<<<<<<<<<
    > >
    > > I agree that Mike's attitude is what is needed. However, although
    Dembski
    > > is obviously contentious at times, the following statement is, imo, an
    > > example of the attitude that true theorists adopt. Will the Darwinians
    > make
    > > the same statement?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > Bob's question:
    >
    > Who are "the Darwinians"? This is an ID designation, so what do
    > they/you mean by "the Darwinians"? Is this intended to include all
    > evolutionary biologists? Does it mean only "the extreme gradualists"
    Howard
    > understands the term to mean in ID-speak? Who are you talking about?
    >
    > Bob Schneider
    >

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