From: Steve Petermann (steve@spetermann.org)
Date: Fri Sep 19 2003 - 09:39:21 EDT
rich,
> you've come here from the postmodern ldg-net with the prospect of shaking
up
> the christians but you don't understand christianity.
You presume too much. I attended the same seminary as George Murphy. My
mentor in Christian theology was Paul Tillich. My motives are varied but one
is not to <shake up the christians>. I have a great affinity for
Christianity. I just think it must change in order to be viable for the
future. The best way to refine one's own position is to meet the challenge
of opposing views. One doesn't grow arguing with the choir.
> If you want civil and rigorous argumentation, produce some.
I believe I am.
Steve Petermann
----- Original Message -----
From: <RFaussette@aol.com>
To: <steve@spetermann.org>; <bnelson301@yahoo.com>; <asa@lists.calvin.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: Fragility and tendentiousness
> In a message dated 9/18/03 2:01:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> steve@spetermann.org writes:
>
>
> > You know, I really hate this kind of "argument". I like to know what
people
> > think is important reading but when a reference is used as an "argument"
I
> > get really suspicious. It seems to show fear of engagement and implies
that
> > the prior argument is *so* unsophisticated and elementary it doesn't
deserve
> > comment. If lists deteriorate into bibliography tit for tat then they
are
> > worthless. However, civil and rigorous argumentation is, in my opinion,
what
> > influences what I think and what others think as well.
> >
> > Steve Petermann
> >
> >
> >
>
> Dear Steve,
> you've come here from the postmodern ldg-net with the prospect of shaking
up
> the christians but you don't understand christianity. You think if we
doubt
> the existence of a place in the sky and a man with a beard who saves us
that the
> religion is fragile. Not so. That's only scratching the surface of
religion.
> Your argument suggesting that ETs would somehow invalidate Jesus of
Nazareth
> is unsophisticated and elementary. If the ETs have free will, they would
> benefit from religious discipline and would have a need for redemption
as they
> would be as capable of ruining their lives as we are. Ontology is
ontology,
> here or in a far off galaxy.
> If you want civil and rigorous argumentation, produce some.
>
> rich faussette
>
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