RE: Fibbonacci and other mathematical patterns in shells

From: Alexanian, Moorad (alexanian@uncw.edu)
Date: Mon Aug 18 2003 - 18:48:23 EDT

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    Dave,

     

    A physical theory predicting the existence of the electron would indeed by a very complex theory. The question “why electrons?” is indeed difficult and makes the electron "complex." Complicated is not the criterion for discarding something as not being designed. ID sets a criterion such than anything more complex than, say, X must be designed. I do not see it that way. Existence itself is a more profound criterion for something being designed. Of course, this is obvious for those of us that consider the existence of a Creator a necessary, logical conclusion of rational beings thinking on the question of origins.

     

    Moorad

            -----Original Message-----
            From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. [mailto:dfsiemensjr@juno.com]
            Sent: Mon 8/18/2003 2:29 PM
            To: Alexanian, Moorad
            Cc: gmurphy@raex.com; hvantill@chartermi.net; sec@hal-pc.org; asa@calvin.edu
            Subject: Re: Fibbonacci and other mathematical patterns in shells
            
            

            Moorad,
            I fear you've missed the point. First, an electron is natural, that is,
            it turns up in nature all over the place. Further, so far as I can
            determine, no one has discovered it to have a complex structure. Second,
            a brick is not as complicated as a house. Indeed, an unskilled individual
            can make bricks. A brick-making machine and gas-fired kiln are more
            complicated and need to be designed by engineers. And a modern house
            requires, as a minimum, the efforts of skilled workmen and, usually, an
            architect. ID sets out a criterion for complexity, arbitrarily. Since you
            have not accepted that dogmatic qualification, you cannot recognize the
            distinction. Toe the line and you'll get it.
            Dave
            
            On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:46:46 -0400 "Alexanian, Moorad"
            <alexanian@uncw.edu> writes:
    > Perhaps someone can tell me why isn’t, say, an electron
    > intelligently designed? A brick is just as intelligently designed
    > as a house!
    >
    >
    >
    > Moorad
    >
            



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