Re: Darwin quote

From: Walter Hicks (wallyshoes@mindspring.com)
Date: Tue Aug 12 2003 - 04:16:06 EDT

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    Glenn Morton wrote:

    > Walter, I don't see that your quote and
    > analysis actually does what you claim. The fact
    > was known that Egyptian cats were identical to
    > modern cats, meaning evolution was slow. But
    > Kelvin, by shortening the time evolution had at
    > its disposal, made evolution much less
    > believable. That is the backtracking. It had
    > nothing to do with descent. 

    --
Glenn, I believe that I agree with what you think
but disagree with what you say.

    Darwin clearly said two different things.

    1.) That he believed that all creatures were
descended from a common source and we not formed
or created separately. One, I think, would call
that "evolution'"

    2.) That he believed the primary but not sole (his
words) method of evolution to be Natural
Selection. Although he claimed that it was not the
only method, you and others would revise his
theory because you think he was influenced by
Kelvin. I think it should then be called
Mortonian  or Robertian instead of Darwinian.
Either way it would be a _theory_ of evolution and
be called 100% "Natural Selection".

    In any event, it is pretty sloppy to mix up these
two concepts (observed evolution and theoretical
natural selection). From what I have observed in
the posts, most are theistic evolutionists while
they simultaneously claim to support Darwin's
Natural Selection thesis, which has nothing to do
with oversight by God .

    And Darwin was a self confessed agnostic (more or
less). No wonder the ID'ers become distraught with
ASAers who fail to distinguish these issues.

    Is this a pure science group or is it both science
and Christianity?

    Walt

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Walt Hicks <wallyshoes@mindspring.com>

    In any consistent theory, there must
exist true but not provable statements.
(Godel's Theorem)

    You can only find the truth with logic
If you have already found the truth
without it. (G.K. Chesterton)
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