Re: The forgotten verses

From: Robert Schneider (rjschn39@bellsouth.net)
Date: Tue Jun 10 2003 - 22:32:40 EDT

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    Debbie,

        Read my article in PSCF, "Does the Bible Teach a Spherical Earth?" (www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2001/PSCF9-01Schneider.html) and you will get the complete details. The Hebrew word correctly translated "circle" in Isa. 40:22a is "chugh" and it never means "sphere" or even implies it, as some YECs have claimed, but literally means "a circle drawn with a compass." In Isa. 42:5 the prophet speaks of Yahweh "flattening out" the land.

        Claims that the Bible teaches that the earth is a globe or is spherical are never warranted by the meaning of the Hebrew texts; they instead are cases of people reading into the text what they want to find instead of reading out of the text what is really there. As St. Augustine said of such persons, "They find not what is in the Bible but what is in themselves as interpreters."

        The purpose of the Holy Spirit in Scripture is to teach theology, not geology.

    Bob
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Debbie Mann
      To: Asa
      Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:24 PM
      Subject: RE: The forgotten verses

      How is the circle of the earth in Isaiah referring to a flat earth?
        -----Original Message-----
        From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On Behalf Of Michael Roberts
        Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:00 PM
        To: D. F. Siemens, Jr.
        Cc: asa@calvin.edu
        Subject: Re: The forgotten verses

        Actually Moorad should draw a straight line. From Genesis 1 6-8, Exodus 20, 4 and Isaiah 40, 22 it is manifestly clear that any reasonable exegesis will take this to be a flat earth. Thus all who take the bible literally will believ e in a flat earth. If they dont they have no grounds for a 6 day creation

        Michael
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: D. F. Siemens, Jr.
          To: alexanian@uncw.edu
          Cc: michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk ; iain.strachan.asa@ntlworld.com ; dfwinterstein@msn.com ; vernon.jenkins@virgin.net ; asa@calvin.edu
          Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:23 PM
          Subject: Re: The forgotten verses

          Moorad,
          What is your scale? 1/10^9, certainly. 1/10^3, can you produce that slight a curvature?
          Dave

          On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:10:18 -0400 "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu> writes:
            Whenever I teach the notion of gravitation and how it affects objects with mass/energy, free falling or otherwise, I draw a straight line on the black (green) board to denote the surface of the earth. Should I start drawing that line curved?

            Moorad



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