Re: Graham and Stott

From: Michael Roberts (michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk)
Date: Sun Jun 08 2003 - 17:19:17 EDT

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    But in the Billy Graham Story by William Martin 1992 0n p 212 states that the view of scripture for Christianity Today would be similar to Bernard Ramm.s with that implication over science. This goes contrary to Templeton's mem ories.

    If someone like Ted Davis can shed some light please do. I am no expert on B Graham.

    What work is undone? Any Gospel based on YEC is false. End of argument

    Michael
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      On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:31:36 +0100 "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk> writes:
        Without discussion the writers said that only a 24 hour day made sense for all the bible and evolution was just dismissed as not on.

        Boy do we have a problem!! I have always regarded Stott and Graham as two of the greatest Christian leaders of their generation. But with their successors their good work will be undone at great speed.

      I fail to see any departure of his successors from what Graham believed. In _Walking Away from Faith_ by Ruth Tucker, Billy Graham and Chuck Templeton (an evangelist who sometimes shared the stage with Graham) are compared. Tucker describes Templeton's struggle with doubt when he and Graham " 'spent the better part of two days closeted in a room in the Taft Hotel.' It was during this time, according to Chuck, that their 'differences came to a head.' "

      Tucker (p 36), quoting from Templeton's _Walking Away From God_ (pp 7-8):

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      In the course of the conversation I said, "But, Billy, it's simply not possible any longer to believe, for instance, the biblical account of creation. The world wasn't created over a period of days a few thousand years ago; it has evolved over millions of years. It's not a matter of speculation; it's a demonstrable fact."

      "I don't accept that," Billy said. "And there are reputable scholar who don't."

      "Who are these scholars?" I said. "Men in conservative Christian colleges."

      "Most of them, yes," he said. "But that's not the point. I believe the Genesis account of creation because it's in the Bible. I've discovered something in my ministry: when I take the Bible literally, when I proclaim it as the Word of God, my preaching has power. When I stand on the platform and say, 'God says,' or 'the Bible says,' the Holy Spirit uses me. There are results. Wiser men than you and I have been arguing questions like this for centuries. I don't have the time or the intellect to examine all sides of each theological dispute, so I've decided, once and for all, to stop questioning and accept the Bible as God's Word."

      "But, Billy," I protested, "you can't do that You don't dare stop thinking about the most important question in life. Do it and you begin to die. It's intellectual suicide."

      "I don't know about anyone else," he said, "but I've decided that that's the path for me."

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      What exactly of Graham's "good work" is in danger of being undone by his successors?

      Bill



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