Burgy, I have always admired your honesty. You clearly do say that the
Bible isn't falsifiable and in one sense challenge me to disprove you. I
like that. For you that works. I am glad for you. For me, everything is
falsifiable. If it isn't, then how can I have any reason to believe it is
true. If I went your way, I might as well be a YEC. If my interpretation of
the Bible is unfalsifiable (as they clearly believe, then it makes no
difference whether I believe YEC or OEC.
But as I said, I like your guts in honesty. (besides you keep me honest and
have many times).
glenn
see http://www.glenn.morton.btinternet.co.uk/dmd.htm
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: J Burgeson [mailto:hoss_radbourne@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:52 AM
>To: glenn.morton@btinternet.com; asa@calvin.edu
>Subject: RE: Herodotus' Mice and the need for historical verification
>
>
>I wrote
>>
>Glenn asked me, some time ago, "Would you beleive Christianity if the
>>entire OT was false?"
>
>I replied: "Probably. Good question though."
>
>Glenn then wrote: "Then what would falsify Christianity in your
>mind? If the
>only thing is the discrediting of the resurrection, I would say that is
>equal to nothing as we can't historically prove or disprove that."
>
>Another good question, and one I have been thinking about. I agree
>that the
>resurrection cannot be proven or disproven. For that matter, the existence
>of Julius Caesar cannot be, either. Both can, of course, be SUPPORTED to a
>more or less extent.
>
>But to the question you ask. Christianity is not a scientific model. In my
>case, I perceive my faith in Christ as coming from God to me, not
>from me to
>God. IOW, I can think of no falsification situation.
>
>Perhaps that is one reason I do not get as upset as you do over
>the book of
>Mormon, or even the strange (to me) practices and apparent beliefs of
>Christian Scientists, JWs, etc. It is, after all, a relationship with God
>that is important. Presbyterians see this relationship in a particular way
>-- Lutherans in a way very close to that of Presbyterians, yet with
>differences, Baptists still differently, Pentecostals even more
>differently.
>Some fellowships appear to say "Christ plus" and some say "Christ
>minus." I
>see a gradation of belief stuctures, and I am really reluctant to draw a
>circle, as the folks at Moody Bible Institute do, and say "in this
>circle --
>Christian -- outside that -- heretic and not Christian." The last time I
>looked at their stuff, BTW, my Catholic friends were as much outside the
>circle as the Mormons, not to mention the Muslims, Hindus, etc.
>
>So -- take all away -- show me that the best scholarship indicates
>that the
>whole Bible was written by a crazed monk in 500 AD, what remains
>is that God
>HAS revealed himself to me and what faith I have comes from Him, not from
>me. In that sense, falsification is a non-possibility.
>
>John
>
>http://www.burgy.50megs.com
>
>
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