--On Mon, 13 May 2002 15:21:31 JW Burgeson wrote: >>>If homosexulaity is determined by genetics, how then do you account >for those homosexuals who have renounced homosexuality and reformed >their sexual morality.>> > >That there are some who have changed their orientation seems to be clear. >That these are a vanishingly small percentage of all who have tried to do so >seems also clear. > >People come in all varieties of sexual orientation, including those who >"swing" both ways. I suspect it is among those that we can find persons who >have "reformed." (your word).]
I don't know if there are hard statistics available on this, but I would liken it to the same percentage of recovered heroin and crack addicts, few and far between, but possible.
> >"To ascribe behaviour to genetics is >a cheap cop out of morality, plain and simple." > >Only if the behaviour is, itself, immoral. I argue that it is not, in >itself, immoral.
Hmmm , Seems to me that the Bible is pretty clear about sodomy being a sinful behaviour.Truth is that any lascivious activity is considered sinful behaviour, and the Bible most decidedly warns against this. In the purest sense, sexual activity should only be engaged in to initiate the reproductive process. I don't think it matters whether you are heterosexual or homosexual when it comes to this.
> >" Where is the justice >in absolving a pedophile of criminal behaviour because it is contesed >that he 'couldn't help it, my genes made me do it'." > >None at all. But we are not addressing child abuse here.
Actually, it was addressed in the initial post.
>" There is no >excuse for criminal behaviour, it is allways a result of moral >transgression or ignorance. But the law doesn't excuse ignorance, nor >should it exclude culpability based on the 'genetics' cop out." > >I agree. > >"'God is of purer eyes than to behold evil.' " > >Again, I agree. The topic of discussion is, however, not that, but whether >or not all homosexual behavior IS evil. If all HB can be shown clearly to be >a sin, then I will, of course, agree, genetics or no genetics. The materials >on my web site, page 2, section 10, address this question. It is really the >only question of importance to a Christian. >
The importance to a Christian is to understand what that scripture means, and to apply the scripture "Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright, for the end of that man is peace". In other words to see your fellow man as God sees him, unfallen, upright, pure and free. When you can do this, you will find the 'peace that passeth all understanding.'
I will check your site reference and get back.
Stuart
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