Wayne wrote:
>I commend Allen Roy for trying to explain the Haymond deposits,
>and especially for being halfway civil about it. Indeed, he has
>even shown some keen observation skills that I do respect
>as a scientist. However, I have yet to feel that this is
>any ground I can stand on. I must rely on frequent tsunamis
>to produce 15k layers (which I gather are rather flat),
I agree with this. Even I have tried to remain civil which is even more
amazing than Allen's civility. :-)
One other item on turbidites that one must think of--dewatering. We just
brought an oil field online this year that is an injection feature. Sand
was deposited in the North Sea about 55 million years ago (yesterday
afternoon for Allen) and then covered with an highly impermeable shale. The
water in the sand could not escape. As more and more shale was deposited it
meant more and more weight pressed down on the sand. The pressure of the
water inside the sand increased greatly. This is because as the weight is
increased the sand repacks itself into a more compact packing arrangement,
leaving less room for the water. Water, being incompressible, increases in
pressure. So, this was occurring about the time that the North Atlantic was
breaking apart, there are lots of tuffs found in these strata and thus one
can infer earthquakes. The earthquakes seemed to have fluidized the
overpressured sands and the sands, burst up into the shales, breaking them
apart and injecting sands into the shales.
Now, my point in raising this is that if 156 layers of sand and shale were
being deposited by the flood at the Haymond formation, the shales, acting
like impermeable barriers to the water the sands contained, should have
overpressured the sands and caused them to burst through like we see in
Leadon field in the North Sea. We should see water escape features, we
should see massive injectites in the Haymond, yet we don't. The laws of
physics requires this to occur but the flood advocates are not even aware of
the argument much less the problem it presents to their views.
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