RE: USGS estimate of oil supply

From: Vandergraaf, Chuck (vandergraaft@aecl.ca)
Date: Wed Oct 03 2001 - 19:26:01 EDT

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    Mr. Hammond,

    You write, "...A 757 at 500 mph could probably dive right through the
    containment building and explode the core all over the place causing the
    evacuation of millions and radioactive contamination for hundreds of miles.
    Hitting 4 of them at once would have done
    a half a trillion dollars in damage."

    A debate on energy supply would benefit more if it were based on fact and
    not on assumptions and preconceived ideas. Unless you can show convincingly
    that a 757 @ 500 mph can penetrate a concrete containment enclosure around a
    nuclear reactor, your statement is little more than scare mongering and
    that's the last thing we need, especially in this time of crisis. CANDUs
    and PWRs have concrete enclosures, not flimsy metal structures like that
    surrounding the RBMK reactors at Chornobyl. Could a 747, 757, or 767
    penetrate a concrete shell around a PWR or CANDU? I don't know but I aim to
    find out.

    Fusion reactors are no solution to our energy problems. Even after throwing
    billions of dollars into research on fusion, there is little to show for.
    Wishing for fusion reactors will not materialize them, no matter how tight
    we close our eyes and wish. In addition, contrary to popular opinion,
    fusion reactors generate lots of radioactive waste.

    If no fission reactors, then what? "Curse the darkness?"

    Chuck Vandergraaf

    -----Original Message-----
    From: George Hammond [mailto:ghammond@mediaone.net]
    Sent: Wednesday October 03, 2001 5:57 PM
    To: asa@calvin.edu
    Subject: Re: USGS estimate of oil supply

    Vandergraaf, Chuck wrote:
    >
    > Glenn,
    >
    > In discussing uranium supplies a couple of weeks ago at a conference in
    > Austria, one comment was that, even though uranium resources also obey the
    > Hubbert curve, in practice the world's uranium supplies are "infinite."
    The
    > argument is based on the fact that there is a low, but not insignificant
    > uranium concentration in seawater and that the energy requirements of
    > extracting this uranium is less than the energy that can be generated from
    > it. Thus, splitting uranium recovered from seawater has a net positive
    > energy balance. Extracting uranium from seawater is chemically not that
    > difficult as the Japanese have shown.
    >
    > As I have mentioned before, uranium is not the answer to all our energy
    > problems, but it can be part of the solution.
    >
    > Comments?

    [Hammond]
      All I can say is thank God that the US didn't
    have 2,000 online fission reactors boiling away when
    the terrorists decided to use airliners as flying
    bombs. A 757 at 500 mph could probably dive right
    through the containment building and explode the
    core all over the place causing the evacuation of
    millions and radioactive contamination for hundreds
    of miles. Hitting 4 of them at once would have done
    a half a trillion dollars in damage.
      Obviously what with the onset of a Third World
    revolution that will probably continue unabated for
    the next 30 years, I would think the last thing we
    should be thinking of is producing hundreds of tons
    of Plutonium or U235. The entire US Army couldn't
    protect it from terrorist attack or theft.
      The idea is absurd. Why didn't Bush put the 1.3
    trillion dollars over 10 years into Fusion instead
    of a tax cut for people who don't need it. That at
    least would have produced a solution to this oil
    crisis mess without getting us into WWIII ?

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