[Hammond]
As a private LISTSERVE manager you are free to take any
arbitrary action that you please. However, such actions
simply serve to define the list.
The subject of a "scientific proof of God" is de facto
appropriate for a Sci-Rel discussion group. It is in fact the
central object of Sci-Rel research in general.
Secondly as I have published this material in a peer
reviewed international academic journal, for you or anyone else
to condemn it as inappropriate or incompetent, is prima facie,
prejudicial, itself incompetent and obviously politically
self-serving.
Thirdly, after posting something, I only post responses to
other posters, and all my posts have been within the guidelines
for ASA posts. I don't interrupt or contribute to the
discussion threads of others and I certainly don't engage in
the type of scurrilous attacks that have been launched against
me by other asa posters... such as the "Horror of Hammond"
thread recently. Furthermore, my frequency of posting is far
less than other members on the list... who don't like competition
apparently.. especially competent Sci-rel competition. There
motive it would seem is to simply eliminate the competion.
Anyone on the list can simply killfile me, delete my posts
or otherwise ignore me. Clearly that is not the issue.
No, I think it is clear that there is nothing but profssional
jealousy behind your letter and the pseudo complaints of others
on the list. I gather that they, and especially you apparently,
are eager to take some kind of action against me, a peer reviewed
published author and qualified scientist obeying the rules. I
think it would be quite apropos to see the ASA go on record as
doing that. I think it would go a long way toward defining exactly
who and what the ASA is and what their real intent and agenda
actually is.
I'm sorry, but given the actions of others and now you concerning
freedom of competent and rule observant Sci-Rel posting on this open
Sci-rel group, simple defense of decency allows no other reply.
Sincerely yours, George Hammond
Terry M. Gray wrote:
>
> George,
>
> There has been much discussion both off- and on-list about your posts
> and SPOG. It appears that there is little interest by the group as a
> whole in your ideas and that some of your rhetoric and style is
> deemed inappropriate. The leadership of the ASA has been part of this
> discussion and there is consideration of a more restricted set of
> rules for the list, including moderating the list, primarily to keep
> your posts off the list. This, of course, would be a great
> inconvenience to everyone. We have operated as a self-policing list,
> where if the group considers a particular individual to be abusing
> the list and makes it known to that person, then that person ought to
> respect the wishes of the group and alter his or her rhetoric and
> style and/or refrain from posting.
>
> I do believe that you have fully informed us of SPOG. It is not
> necessary to continue to post the same thing over and over again. We
> have the archives and we have your web site that we can go to if we
> want to read about it again. I recall that you established a USENET
> group to discuss SPOG. Why not re-extend the invitation to join that
> group and then move the discussion to there? My perception is that
> there is very little interest in continued discussion of these ideas
> on the ASA list.
>
> I do appreciate very much your "A cautious dialogue" post and would
> be happy to see that effort continue. Submit the article to Zygon and
> see what happens. In the meantime, let's halt the discussion of SPOG
> here.
>
> You have stated before your opposition to private postings, so I
> fully expect to see this post on the ASA list with your response. If
> you choose to do that, it's okay by me. However, I wanted to follow a
> process where I brought this up privately to you before bringing it
> up publicly.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Terry M. Gray
> ASA List Manager
> --
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> Chemistry Department, Colorado State University
> Fort Collins, Colorado 80523
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