Re: Gloree gloree halaluuulyaaa.... gloree gloreee halaluuulyaa

From: george murphy (gmurphy@raex.com)
Date: Sun Sep 16 2001 - 07:36:06 EDT

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    George Hammond wrote:
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    > Dear George Murphy and Edward Hassertt:
    >
    > I find the present situation personally embarrassing and disastrous
    > to the point of mortification. Nevertheless, dire circumstances force me
    > to have to face up to it and undertake a constructive initiative. There
    > are several factual circumstances that bear on this.
    > In the first place it is obvious that the world social structure is
    > undergoing a rapid change. The good guys of yesterday may easily become
    > the villains of tomorrow, and vice versa, and many innocent people are
    > at risk. At the center of all this is a potential religious confrontation
    > between the Christian and Moslem worlds involving 40 Billion dollars worth
    > of potential military action. And central to this type of social situation
    > is certainly anything such as the proposal of a "scientific proof of God".
    > We have already seen growing levels of hate in the lower realms of our
    > society and the situation can get worse if educated people don't put their
    > heads together fast and start displaying a proper role model for behavior
    > in the coming few years apparently of religious, social and military crisis.
    > Therefore, I am going first.. I am officially "standing down" vis a vis
    > any further disputation and confrontation concerning the discovery of a
    > scientific proof of God. Out of pure concern of the consequences of further
    > disputation, I am initiating an effort of reapproachmont; first.
    > Edward Hassertt has complained bitterly that I have said that the SPOG
    > can only be understood by Nobel Laureates and International authorities.
    > The answer to that is yes and no. It can only be confirmed by authorities,
    > but it can be understood by anyone. The problem is that no authorities have
    > confirmed it, so therefore no one will bother to try and understand it
    > because they have no way of knowing if they're wasting their time on
    > something
    > that may not be true.
    > In order to solve this problem, I have recently sent the abstract for a
    > summary paper on the SPOG to Philip Hefner, editor of the peer reviewed
    > journal
    > ZYGON. Sir John Polkinghorne, an eminent Physicist and Theologian is a
    > frequent contributor to this journal, and I have asked Dr. Hefner if Zygon
    > would give me an assurance that they would ask John Polkinghorne to review
    > the paper. Polkinghorne was a student of Dirac's, was head of Particle
    > Physics research at Oxford, was President of Queen's College in London,
    > is a member of the Royal Society and a Knight of the Order of the British
    > Empire as well as being an Ordained Minister in the Anglican Church.
    > This is exactly the kind of expertise that is necessary to evaluate
    > something
    > like the scientific proof of God.
    > Now, I mention this at some risk to myself, since George Murphy is also a
    > contributor to Zygon, and Howard Van Till, also on this list, is a Book
    > Reviewer for Zygon. All I would need is for either one of them to pick up
    > the telephone or send an email to Philip Hefner telling him that they
    > thought
    > George Hammond was a crank, and that would be the end of any publication of
    > the SPOG in Zygon, or any chance of John Polkinghorne ever seeing it. Any
    > other angry person on this list could do the same thing.
    > However, as I said, the current social situation has now reached
    > disastrous
    > proportions involving something like a 40 Billion dollar budget for military
    > action, and there is no doubt that there is going to be shooting between
    > Moslems and Christians soon. Therefore, the matter of a "universal"
    > scientific
    > proof of God has become even more vital and at the same time more volatile.
    > Therefore, I am now officially "standing down" from my previous
    > adversarial
    > posture and now intend to pursue a course of peacemaking, reconciliation,
    > and
    > strictly sincere dialogue in all matters pertaining to Religion, starting
    > with
    > the matter of a scientific proof of God. I have great fear of the
    > situation.
    > <snip>

            I appreciate the attitude that Mr. Hammond has shown here. I will not attempt
    to influence the decision about publication in Zygon one way or another, and will
    consider a response to the article if and when it is published.

    Shalom,

    George

    George L. Murphy
    http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
    "The Science-Theology Interface"



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