Re: So far, new genetics leave plenty of room for faith

From: george murphy (gmurphy@raex.com)
Date: Mon Feb 26 2001 - 16:26:32 EST

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    Adrian Teo wrote:

    > George,Now I am getting curious. What kind of causal agent do you
    > think God is, and how is that different than those in the natural
    > realm? Could you be thinking of the Aristotelian types? Adrian.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: george murphy [mailto:gmurphy@raex.com]
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:47 AM
    > To: Adrian Teo
    > Cc: 'SteamDoc@aol.com'; asa@calvin.edu
    > Subject: Re: So far, new genetics leave plenty of room for
    > faith
    >
    > Adrian Teo wrote: [My response] Allan, I fully agree that a
    > God-of-the-Gaps theology is how it comes out to the general
    > public, and yet the appeal is there because many Christians
    > do hold on to this theology. Steve talks alot about bringing
    > the God hypothesis back onto the table based on the
    > Inference to the Best Explanation (IBE) approach. According
    > to him, the IDers are simply asking that the God hypothesis
    > be given equal weight as any other scientific/naturalistic
    > explanations, and allow the evidence to point us towards the
    > best explanation, even if that involves God/intelligent
    > designer.
    > "Asking that the God hypothesis be given equal weight as any
    > other scientific/naturalistic explanation" comes very close
    > to seeing God as a causal agent of the same type as things
    > in the natural world. That is a serious error. God is not
    > a being alongside other beings in the world, and divine
    > operations are not the same as the operations of creatures.
    > As Barth said, "One does not speak about God by speaking
    > about man [or, I would add, any other creature] in a loud
    > voice."
    >
    >
    > Shalom,
    >
    >
    > George
    >
    > God as "first cause" operating through "secondary
    > causes" provides one of the best way of thinking about it,
    > though that needs to be supplemented by an understanding of
    > the kenotic character of divine action (God limited himself
    > to what can be done through created agents) and the role of
    > faith (& not merely logical inference) in seeing God at work
    > in the world at all. I have set out my ideas on this in
    > "The Theology of the Cross and God's Work in the World"
    > (Zygon 33, 221,1998).
    > My basic point, however, is not to argue for one way or
    > another of thinking about divine action (Barbour discusses
    > ten of them) but to insist on the fundamental theological
    > distinction between between creator and creature. Any of
    > the models of divine action that we may use are more or less
    > imperfect analogies from the way we understand things in the
    > natural world to act. God should not be thought of as as
    > actually being an agent on the same order as people or
    > electromagnetic fields.
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    > Shalom,
    >
    >
    > George
    >
    > George L. Murphy
    > http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
    > "The Science-Theology Interface"
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