Re: Is intelligent design testable?

From: pruest@pop.dplanet.ch
Date: Thu Feb 01 2001 - 11:12:20 EST

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    I agree with you.
    Peter

    John W Burgeson wrote:
    >
    > Peter Rust wrote:
    >
    > "The IA candidates you mention are exactly what I meant by what I wrote
    > in the parenthesis you quote (cf. also my comments to Dembski's points
    > 15 and 18). But I think these IA must themselves have been created by
    > God (directly or through other IA or processes created and directed by
    > God), so at the end of the line you can have none other than the
    > Christian God.."
    >
    > While that is my position also, I don't see that it is anything more
    > (to a non-Christian) than a theological statement. As such, I hold
    > that it has no meaning as part of science. What is "at the end of
    > the line" is, while of ultimate importance, not part of a scientific
    > investigation.
    >
    > So -- I hold that ID ought not assume any "unembodied intelligence" as
    > part
    > of its thesis, but only an IA which, as far as its science goes, is part
    > of nature.
    > Dembski & Johnson disagree with me on this, of course, on the grounds
    > that
    > an unembodied intelligence cannot be ruled out a priori. Where we
    > disagree
    > is not on the truth of the above sentence, but whether the above sentence
    > can properly
    > be part of science, or is wholly subsumed under philosophy.
    >
    > Burgy
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