Lovely place Sonora with an excellent motel. On holiday there our Alamo 4X4
broke down and had to be exchanged, as a result we got through 4 vehicles in
14 days.
Otherwise an excellent vist to the West USA from Britain.
But what a change from British geology -everything on a vast scale.
We popped down the Grand canyon -round trip in 91/2 hours , who says we
British cant cope with heat. It is a tremendous experience and no better
place to feel geological time. (Didnt meet the ICR team!)
On the way down found a Diamond back rattle fast asleep on a bedding plane.
One should always take a geol photo with something for scale. It's being
used in a book next Spring called The discovery of time and I have written a
chapter on theological and geological aspects of time.
I argue very few from 1650 to 1850 even contemplated Ussher's 4004 BC. Some
will call it revisionist but it is ironic that many geologists from 1800 to
1850 were evangelicals.
To return to our holiday , went ot Yosemite and then climbed Mt Dana a great
little walk, but no time to knock off Lyell and Darwin.
To comment on Steve's musings. i go for the puritanical tradition as one
leading Puritan bought his bride a frilly garter for their wedding!! I am
sure a lacivious research project wopuld be to see exactly how Christians in
the Reformed and Evangelical trads actually considered sex. In 1820s
Evangelicals opposed Malthus becvause restraint was not right in marriage.
That ought to be on the Californian radio
Michael roberts
Wales
----- Original Message -----
From: <Dutch@dordt.edu>
To: <acg-l@cc.dordt.edu>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 3:33 PM
Subject: Musings on a Post-GSA Encounter
> I flew in and out of San Francisco, since my parents live just over the
> Sierra in Sonora. While driving back to SF on Sunday, the 19th, I happened
> on a radio program out of UC-Berkeley on various religious traditions.
That
> Sunday it was the tantric traditions, found in both Buddhism and Hinduism,
> which emphasize sex as an avenue to spirituality. The interviewer posed
the
> inevitable question that these traditions stood in direct opposition to
the
> puritanical traditions of Christianity, and the speaker agreed. She added
> that Christianity generally "separates us from our power."
>
> Bypassing for the moment the myriad issues connected with sex, it struck
me
> that she was absolutely correct, but in a way she would perhaps not
endorse.
> Christianity IS about separating us from "our" "power." I put "power" in
> quotes because we have no real power of our own - what we do have for good
> or ill, we have only to the extent God permits us to have it. But the real
> operative word is "our" - the whole idea that we can have autonomy. The
> irony here is that many people who insist that we can have a real "our"
when
> it comes to our souls are quick to deny there can be such a thing as "our"
> property, resources or money.
>
> Steven I. Dutch
> University of Wisconsin-Green Bay
>
>
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